A squad creation/customization mechanic


Forgive me for using AI slop, however Im not confident enough in my editing skills to make this image myself

Hello bajtársak and fellow forumdwellers,
Squads are Enlisted´s core game mechanic, a First Person Shooter game in a mostly World War II setting, set apart from others by making the player the commander of a squad of AI soldiers. These squads are accurate representations of real battalions and regiments that fought during the last world war.

Currently all squads were handcrafted by the developers, they picked out a historical unit, named a squad after it, gave it its historical emblem (if it had any), assigned a class to the squad and even gave it a short description of its history.
This worked really well in the old campaign system. However in the new system, units are no longer tied to certain theatres of war and thus lost their old appeal.

It has become clear that squads created by the developers alone cannot satisfy each player´s whims

  • As of now, the available Italian and British squads are insufficient in number and are not available in every class possible.
  • Vehicles only being available to certain squads, this can affect all factions but the Allied faction is the most notorious for this issue, the prime example is the Churchill tank which had to be added to two squads so the British tech tree tank squad can use their own British vehicle as well.
  • There are too few squads for Japan and even with other factions when it comes to more recently added guerrilla or APC squads.
  • squad upgrades have changed overtime, for example most US squads from the Pacific campaign have medic available to them while other US squads from previous campaigns usually have assaulters available instead and no British squad (with the exception of an event squad) have medics available.

The most fair and quickest solution to make everyone happy is introducing a mechanic that allows players to create the squads on the same schemes as the developers did.


About the squad creation

In the squad creation mechanic, the players can choose:

  1. The class for the squad
  2. The nationality of the squad
  3. Name the squad
  4. Pick an emblem from the list
  5. Pick a squad upgrade scheme

The class of the squad

This is selected first because the rest of the options you can pick from will depend on this choice the most.
A player can make ONE copy of every single tech tree squad for a reasonable amount Enlisted silver cost, these squads have a small feather or other icon (that is not similar to any other in-game icon) in the top right corner to represent that its a custom made squad.
Once bought, these squads cannot be deleted, but they can be modified later should the player get bored of it or change his mind.

Though it’s true that this change will give every player access to two tanker III squads, however it will not hurt balance too much since they will still only have one of each vehicle, thus this change may only put veterans with legacy squads on the same terms as players joining after the merge.


The nationality of the squad
This mechanic does not concern all factions, at least not yet.
But it is the most straightforward way of introducing more subfactions to the game without the developers having to add and manage 30+ squads manually for every new subfaction.
Ideally I would like all squad types to be available in all nationalities of the faction, but I recognise that the current voice lines, uniforms and equipment in the game files impose limitations, so for now, add all possible squads types and expand them later if possible.


Name the squad
Kinda obvious, players can name their squads in any way they like.
Players can only see their own squads so you will never see someone else’s squads in-game so censorship shouldn’t be a huge concern.
For lazier players historically accurate base templates should be available.


Pick an emblem from the list


I originally intended to use this picture in a different topic, but it does get the point through

Another feature that does not concern all factions equally.
Japanese, Italian and Soviet squads rarely have unique emblems while German, US and British squads have many of them.
All tech tree and legacy squad emblems should be available to all players by default for players to pick any they like for the custom squad.
Players can also use the emblems of premium and event squads they own and they should also be able to purchase the emblems of premium squads they don’t own for a small price of gold. Further unique emblems could be made unlockable for a small price of gold or through events.
Using a historical template should also set the emblem at the same time with the squad name.


Pick a squad upgrade scheme
There are a number of squads that did get slightly different squad upgrades in different campaigns.
This is easier to explain with pictures, please compare two Axis Assaulter II squads, one from the Normandy campaign (top) and Stalingrad campaign (bottom).


It would be really nice if players could pick from these schemes.

Do you support adding the custom squad creation/customization mechanic?
  • Yes
  • No
0 voters

Thank you for your time and attention.

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Finally I could get actual italian infantry squads…!

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So many cool looking icons… getting old waiting for these legacy premiums to come back to have a taste at them

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I apologize, but I voted against it. My reasoning is that instead of letting players create their own custom teams, it would be better for the official Enlisted team to directly release the pre-merge silver coin squads. This would satisfy everyone’s collecting interests and also increase the overall online play rate.

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It was specifically mentioned that they have no intentions of reintroducing legacy squads.

Let’s look forward to the addition of new activity teams; after all, out with the old, in with the new.

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Except Japan mains who have no legacy squads. Being able to create your own squads is a lot better idea since it benefits every nation

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No, excessive DIY can easily turn “enlisted” into “Call of Duty 18.” A fictional, alternate World War II.

How? How can custom squads with existing emblems and classes turn this game into call of duty?

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Thanks for sharing your opinion.
My only counter argument is, why not both?

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This. :point_up:

I still want my Royal Tank Regiment squad!

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what a fantastic idea!!! Love it love it

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mhhh i like the ability to reuse duplicates.

but the problem is,

that’s not how squads works.

which this above, it’s more feasable.

because right now, squads are a defined entity.
meaning, you would need to created 7 of the same squad with different name based on squad type in order for this to work.

each squad has an unique ID that has specific sets.

unfortunately, you cant just clone it and be able to transform it into something else entirely.

imo, i’d be just happy with a shop and be able to buy them.

or have a RNG crate dedicated to it.

but then again, it would be a bit of a scam because airplanes squads are constrained and don’t have a whole lot of selection to chose from.

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i think what might be missing from this post for completeness is how upgrades for weapons / soldiers would work?

How I understand it works now is based on the tier of engineer etc u unlock the corresponding weapon / upgrade

how would u align this system with the current way we gain upgrades for weapons / different tiers of soldiers

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I guess the simplest way would be to make squad types have joint upgrades…?

So, if you copy a Infantry II squad template, you can level the Infantry II upgrades, available on all squads of the same type.

This would be great too for grinding out squads, if you could bring three of the same squad type and cycle them constantly, vastly quickening the grind process… Some TT squads are just pure PAIN when leveling them for the first time… 10k or more for the first level is ridiculous when you don’t even have an Engineer in the squad to build a rally with…

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or maybe u get a squad unlock point, something like this and then maybe any weapons u unlock on the tech tree u can use whenever u want and maybe u gain upgrades by using them?

Idk just throwing ideas out there

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Another thing I’d quite like to see from this custom squad system is the ability to use the unique cosmetics from event and premium squads on the new squads.

I’d really like my Commonwealth guys to have access to the slouch hats from the Australian Austen squad, for example…


Though really, I’d like such comsetics to be universally available, so long as you own the corresponding squads…

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agree, I want to be able to use the camo helmet with foliage on them from the German TZ45 squad on normal squads

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Unless they were divided into nations or squad types then this is simply a coping mechanism… you will never get anything you actually want when from my calculations there should be over 300+ legacy squads among all the nations.

I will support this suggestion. But the chances of it actually being implemented to the game are practically zero.
They would have to make some really major changes in their spaghetti code. Which wouldn’t be worth it for them.

Not to mention that something similar was already suggested by CC during the merge era. It was obviously rejected.

But of course, if anyone here wants to engage in endless discussions with some naive hopes that it might make it into the game, fine. But you’ll only end up wasting your time.

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