A simple solution on how to fix the "desertion" problem

Desertion is a massive problem in enlisted currently, since after players desert you are left in bot matches, whom aren’t fun.

1st thing to do: Is remove annoying modes of maps from rotation. No one wants to play Quarry on moscow, or destruction, or conquest. Thats why people desert from these modes and bad maps. You have plenty of feedback telling that conquest and certain maps just arent fun and are annoying.

And the solution to fix this problem comes from War Thunder.
If you leave a match before you finish it, you will be unable to play with your campaigns nation for around 10 minutes, basically locking people out of playing that campaign and certain faction.

Just like this. Left the match as soon as it started:


I cannot play with any of these vehicles no more.

Thats how enlisted should deal with deserters as well. We would see a gradual decrease of desertions immediately. And overtime it will become rare

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No.

If there’s a map I dislike, such as dday, I’ll leave.
If I’m defending for the 5th time, I’ll leave.
If after 5 minutes I’m the only guy going for objective I’ll leave.

Because I value MY time, and it’s the only thing that matters to me.

Also removing entirely modes YOU deem unpleasant isn’t the solution either: some people might like conquest or destruction. I personally like quarry in Moscow (bolt action nut here). And most importantly, ONLY keeping invasion mode would remove all variety… and make even Invasion very bland and annoying after a while. It’s like marriage: being with your wife 365 days a year sounds super nice on paper, but men invented fishing trips for a reason… :no_mouth:

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Well that is shit logic

Some people liked LF - aka me and a lot of others. But they removed it

If a minority of people like something while the majority doesnt, that means the mode that most people dont like has to go. Do you like bot matches? Because i dont. If you expect Stalingrad to not be filler by bots, youre wrong.

Deserting is a massive issue, and i dont care if you dont like to defend, if that is what your nation historically did why do you have to be pissed about that?

This is the reason this happens =

Because all the good players desert 20 times to find the ideal matches

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I would leave and wait 10 minute or Just change game, no problem.

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If they implement your suggestion people won’t just leave matches for the reasons I gave, they will leave the game, plain and simple.

Your suggestion:

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So what is your “genius” solution to fixing desertion? Because the game this solution is based on aka WT, i barely see any desertions. While in enlisted you get 10+ people leaving each match

simply because the only penalty for people who leave the games would be that they do not receive experience. That way, people wouldn’t leave as many games midway through, but we also wouldn’t have a problem leaving games early on maps we don’t like.

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Most people leave at the beginning of the game, where there is no punishment

friend, you cannot decide on people, much less force them, if they want to leave, it is THEIR decision.

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This

We’d keep our liberty of choosing how to spend our time.

To punish people like you suggest is really a bad idea.

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and thus we should be able to “ban vote” maps and modes we dont want to play.
Leaving a match is definitely problem and should not be allowed.

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I don’t really get it why you want to punish players instead of just giving them some motivation to actually stay in battle, even if it’s going really bad. I would really want to reward players of losing team, especially with a lot of AI teammates to get something extra for their effort, like more XP if they keep playing till the end, maybe not for whole team, but the first 5 players in team with multiplier of 1.3-1.4 xp (so it won’t be the same as when winning anyway). I don’t want to be beaten with a stick, I want a carrot.

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Probably the big reason why i am not playing enlisted often anymore is because of bot matches every time. Everyone leaves, fuck ill go play ravenfield if i want vs bots

You see buddy, you look at something that works to fix something, and you fix the problem. WT has no desertion problem. And you really expect gaijin to give you extra XP for playing a match entierely?

+1 fully agree

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People still leave in WT matches are you retarded?

I shouldn’t have to ask that after your suggestion though
really

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Literally dont notice such a problem in WT as i witness in enlisted

Have yet to see a close to half full or empty WT match, unlike enlisted where at the start 10 people vanish from the match and get replaced by bots

You’re less likely to actually notice it in WT because they’re replaced by poor JiP players

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@125010088 there is always different way of seeing things, but for me personally it is always better to motivate people by rewards than by punishing them, I will be more motivated to work harder when I can see some more benefits, than if I get punished if I won’t work harder.

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I would be a bigger fan of youre approach but have doubts the devs would ever do that