A proposal to rearrange the unlocks in Moscow. With Spreadsheet

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Please read this foreword before going on an adventure commenting.

The intention of the proposal are the following:

  • Reduced equipment disparity between factions. Incomparable/inferior equivalent unlocks removed.
  • Reduced redundancy by removing filler unlocks that are equal or worse than predecessor unlocks.
  • Faster access to core II squads to make rosters with. Non-squad unlocks moved to the end of the campaign, increased number of squads to unlock with campaign levels closer to the start of the campaign.
  • More appropriate pricing for weapons: Manual-action rifles @ 1 silver // Semi-automatic rifles @ 2 silver // Automatic rifles, Large-capacity SMGs @ 3 silver.
  • Before the halfway point of the campaign at Level 27 (Raw exp-wise), players are expected to be armed with semi-automatic rifles and 47-50rd LMGs, which are unlocked at level 16 and 19, respectively.
  • Lowering the power gap between late-campaign players and those who have just started due to the previous bullet point.
  • Introduce SPGs to the campaign as a viable means of destroying later-unlock tanks.

Google Sheet Link, with side-by-side view of original campaign progression

Self-impositions in making this sheet:

  • Weapons and vehicles introduced are restricted to those that already exist in the campaign, as well as weapons and vehicles that chronologically fit the campaign.
  • All plane loadouts must be available to existing presets in War Thunder.
  • Introduced weapons and vehicles must have a degree of parity to its competitor’s equivalent level unlock.

Axis additions:

  • ZH-29 w/ 20rd magazine
  • Beretta M38 w/ 40rd magazine
  • MP-717 (r)
  • MG 34 w/ 75rd magazine
  • StuG III F
  • Pz. Kfpw Ausf. F1 using Hl.Gr 38C Shells instead of APCBC
  • Ju 87 D-3 with 3x 250kg bomb loadout

Allies additions:

  • ZiS-30

Axis removals:

  • Sniper Gewehr 98
  • PzB 38
  • Beretta M38 w/ 20rd magazine
  • Pz.Kpfw III Ausf. B

Allies removals:

  • RM-38

The following costs 1 silver to purchase:

  • MP 28
  • Kar98k
  • Sniper Kar98k
  • MP 38
  • Vz.24
  • PzB-39
  • Pre-War Kar98k
  • MP 40
  • PPD-34/38 25rd
  • Mosin 91/30
  • Sniper Mosin M91/30
  • TOZ-B
  • Mosin M91 “Dragoon”
  • PTRD-41
  • Mosin M1938 carbine
  • Madsen
  • Winchester M1895

The following costs 2 silvers to purchase:

  • Flammenwerfer 35
  • Kar98k with Schiessbecher GL
  • ZB-26
  • Sniper Pre-War Kar98k
  • Gewehr 41 (W)
  • MP 35/I
  • MG-34
  • ROKS-2
  • Mosin with Diakonov GL
  • Sniper SVT-38
  • SVT-38
  • Sniper SVT-40
  • DP-27

The following costs 3 silvers to purchase:

  • Beretta M38 40rd
  • GrB-39
  • Granatwerfer 36
  • ZH-29 20rd
  • MG 34 75rd
  • Kiraly 39M
  • Flammenwerfer 41
  • MP-717 (r)
  • MKb 42(H)
  • Sniper MKb 42(H)
  • PPD-34/38 75rd
  • PTRS-41
  • RM-40
  • AVS-36
  • DT-29
  • PPD-40
  • ROKS 3
  • PPSh-41 75rd
  • Fedorov Avtomat
  • Sniper AVS-36
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Question, why is BT-7 paired with ZB-26?
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Axis suffers we need muh captured PPSh in every campaign

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Asymmetrical unlocks aren’t anything new.

This was the method I’ve found that would allow me to introduce the two items in the unlock list.

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Yes, but it’s typically weapon to weapon or vehicle to vehicle. Weapon to vehicle is a bit more iffy,

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Iffy in what sense?

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It just seems like it wouldn’t be a good idea. Mostly a gut feeling.

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I don’t exactly see a balance concern, so it’ll stay where it is unless a compelling argument convinces me otherwise.

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Replace it with T-50 and put StuG on same level or the cool Sfg whatever.

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You mean the SIG 15cm SPG?

Why introduce an assault gun with a reload time of a dozen seconds and no other armament? Is it because the ZiS-30 has no armor?

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Yes. Or the StuG.

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here is better balance solution for moscow… remove last 10 levels of moscow… or even better… remove last 15 levels.

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Seems pretty much unnecessary.

Axis already has the mkb, why does it need all the other auto buff crap on top? I don’t see much of the point really. Would be much nicer to remove some of the fantasy football stuff and not go even more in with Stug Fs and whatever.

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Panzerjager I is a similar analog.
It’s either that or the SIG 150mm.

The idea behind the tank destroyers is to introduce SPGs that can destroy armor from later campaign levels, unlocked at a lower level.

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fuck yeah more spreedsheets, can’t wait to not read them

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I just don’t like your “end tier” lvls.

It’s 3 tanks with 1 unlock in-between each.

Since Enlisted is a power creep game, the first 2 of the late end tier tanks will get dismissed almost immediately.

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What tanks in particular?

The T-34 1940 is, well, a T-34

The F1 with the 38C HEAT shells can go through T-34 UFPs and retains the rapid rate of fire that other kwk37-equipped tanks have. You can even argue that it fixes the issues of the P4E along with upgraded infantry support due to HEAT in-game acting as a better HE shell.

There’s a 4 level or 720k exp difference between the 1941 and the F2, respectively.

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T50, 1 other unlock, t28, 1 other unlock, t34.

Pz4j (???), another unlock, pz4j1(what?), another unlock, pz3f1 (:face_with_raised_eyebrow:) (I think you messed up panzers here)

They’re too close to each others by lvl. Seriously in 5 campaign lvls you unlock 3 tanks!!! First 2 of those will become obsolete fast.

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t50s weren’t used much in Moscow anyways.

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As you know, the developers will never fix it anyway.
See ppsh vs 20 beretta.

No one ever decides that way, but I think they do it on purpose.

They’re not going to fix it anyway because this was intentional

If he rearranges, it will probably take 4 years.
Keep in mind that it took 4 months for a wrong image of a weapon shop in Tunisia to be corrected.

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