4,7 cm Pak 35/36 L/35,6 (ö) “Böhler” auf Sfl. Bren (e)

Today I brought the 4.7 cm Pak 35/36 L/35.6 (ö) “Böhler” auf Sfl. Bren (e)
A universal carrier captured and modified by the Germans.

I got all this information from a post on the Warthunder forum, which is in “sources”.

History of 4,7 cm Pak 35/36 L/35,6 (ö) “Böhler” auf Sfl. Bren (e)

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During the British retreat during the French campaign, particularly at Dunkirk, they were forced to abandon their vehicles and heavy equipment including dozens of Universal Carriers, which was captured by the Germans and designated as Selbstfahrlafette Bren (e)

After the capture of dozens of Universal Carriers, a few units were modified to receive the Austrian cannon Infanterie-geschütze M.35.

The Germans designated it as 4,7 cm Pak 35/36 L/35,6 (ö) “Becker,is a classic early multi purpose infantry gun design, which was even liked by the italian and licensed produced under 47mm 47/32 gun (used in the M13, M14 tanks and in self-propelled artillery Semovente L40 da 47/32). While the original austrian gun from the company Becker is noted as L/35,6 or L/39

It went into German service after the annexation of Austria by Germany as well as was captured from Netherland storage (Kanon van 4.7) and later russian stock (M35B).

It was integrated into the german arsenal with even having own production ammo, as well as czech ammo adapted to it and duo to the usage of a Muzzle brake it could fire higher charge ammo, than the Italian copy.
Used the same rounds (shells) as the 4,7 cm Pak (t

Ammo

Ammo Types: Aphe, Apc, Apcr,He

Pzgr. L'Spur (Aphe) 1,45kg 25g Trotyl 650m/s 52mm/10m

Pzgr.35(ö) umg. (Aphe) 1,51 kg 15g TnT 640m/s 55mm/10m

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Pzgr.36(t) (Apc (no Tracer)) 1,65 kg 15g TnT 630m/s 64mm/10m

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Pzgr.36(t) L'Spur (Apc) Identical to the normal one, but equipped with Tracer unit Nr. 8

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Pzgr.40 (Apcr) 0,86 kg 21x75 mm 335g Core 880m/s 88mm/10m

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Sprgr.M35 (He) 1,48 kg 175g Fp.02 and Np.10 (220,5g) 595/650m/s

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Photos of the 4.7 cm Pak 35/36 L/35.6 (ö) “Böhler” auf Sfl. Bren (e)






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Specifications

Weight Loaded: 3.75 ton
Weight unloaded: 3.19 t
Length: 3.65 m
Width: 2.06 m
Height: 1.57 m
Crew: 4 (Driver, Gunner, Loader, Mg Gunner (next to driver)
Engine: 3.9-litre Ford V8 petrol
Eigne Power: 85 hp at 3,500 rpm
Suspension: Horstmann
Fuel capacity: 91 L
Operational range: 250 km
Maximum speed: 48 km/h
Armour: 7–10 mm, 14,5 mm Gunshield.
Units produced: Beyond that its (likely) build by Beckers Bautrupp after or during the France campain nothing more is pretty much known and at least 6 vehicles were build

Sources

4,7 cm Pak 35/36 L/35,6 (ö) "Böhler" auf Sfl. Bren (e) - Ground - War Thunder — official forum
Cannone da 47/32 - Wikipedia

The 4.7 cm Pak 35/36 L/35.6 (ö) “Böhler” auf Sfl. Bren (e) Should be added?
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The Germans don’t need another tank acting as an apc

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Nobody said they need it, but it would be interesting to add it to the game and you’re talking as if Germany had multiple APCs with cannons (despite being the only nation that has), but Germany only has one, not several as you seem to be implying, and that won’t break the game.

In reality, you vote “no” on every suggestion that will help Germany or japan in some way, So your opinion cannot be taken seriously in any post about Germany or Japan

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No I vote no on every German power creep
Move this br5 assault rifle to br4
Move this br4 German rifle to br3
Give Germany a hundred round mg at br3 to face a 20 round mg

But no that 30 round Thompson is too strong for br2
But it’s just right for br4 against the br4 kiraly which is a better Thompson
So should I ignore any thing you say in a post about ussr or us

Most of the time I don’t even say anything, I just vote and rarely I disagree.

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Ok then we agreeing I will ignore anything you say about us ussr and you will ignore anything I say about Germany and japan
I love it when people agree

I never said anything but okay

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Ok

Remind me how many the other nations have??

No it won’t break the game - but it is a model that isn’t in War Thunder AFAIK, and there’s a great deal far mor important to fix in Enlisted than adding this bit of fluff.

I myself said that only Germany has

Most of APCs are not in the warthunder

But they are modified warthunder models. Gaz, isuzu and studebaker are just AA trucks/katysha without guns. Sdkfz 251s and m3s are also from warthunder with modified weaponry.

I think universal carrier, ho ha, lvt a4 and sdkfz 7 are the only unique models.

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While they are not directly available in war thunder, there are several vatiant of these vehicles available already in WT.

Particularly AA vehicles.

They probably modelled them in WT based on these AA trucks.

Considering that the game’s development team still prefers to be lazy and copy and paste existing content, Germany definitely needs this too.

Yes thought so - thanks for the reminder…

A lot of vehicles are modelled in the files without being in the game yet.

Likely because htey don’t have any actual 3D modellers in the team - tehy are piggy-backing off War Thunder.

Bollocks - it is flim flam.

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