Zoom in scope only

As for the sighting mirror, we noticed that the peripheral area of the sighting mirror was also magnified together, but it was only virtualized, which was obviously untrue.

In many FPS games, amplification has been achieved only in the scope area. I hope Enlisted can achieve that as soon as possible
(I know it will consume more graphics card resources, so maybe the functions that can be enabled are better?)
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You wouldn’t aim from a scope that far back in real life. Also you close one eye when using a a scope, or you will have a distorted view in your eyes.

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Not exactly true, unless you’re cross dominant (you’re right handed but the left eye is dominant). Other than that it’s easy to focuse on the scope and to ignore the other eye. Also both eyes open help with situational awareness, meaning that even if you don’t focus on the other eye, you’ll still notice enemy movement with it.

Not far, but the scope back lens isn’t that big. Modern scopes have a 40 mm back lens and with the eye relief they have it looks almost right in the picture he posted. Granted, i don’t know what eye relief ww2 scopes had but compared to my scope it looks almost spot on.
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there’s only one problem though.

your eyes have field of view.

you either look around, or you look through the scope.

surely you don’t see everything " fussy " but you either give priority of focus on the sight, or the surrounding.

the pic that op and you showed, would require you to have 3 eyes lol.

another thing is, when you are aiming, you keep at least one eye closed as the other look in the sight.

try to use a sight with both opened eyes.
that’s not how human works…

Have you ever aimed with a anything related or in the shape of a firearm? It’s doesn’t have to be real, airsoft/ paintball will do. I just want to know if you have any experience aiming.

No, that’s actually close to what you would see irl with just one eye opened. Since the scope is over the bore and you have to hold the weapon at a slight angle to align it with your shoulder and head, this results in having the head turned at a slight angle when aiming through the scope meaning that the scope is closer to the left side of your view and not centered in you field of view. This results in having a wider fov on the right of the scope than on the left, matching the picture in the OP actually.

And yes, all of the above also apply to iron sights, not just scopes.

Do you mean field of view or depth of field? Modern scopes have adjustable ocular lens (back lens) so when you aim you look “through” the scope and not “at” the back lens meaning that you don’t have to focuse your eye closer on the image inside the scope. As you can see in the picture i posted i didn’t had to focus the camera on the back lens and the view surrounding the scope is not blurry and out of focus.

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not anything that has a scope.

i’ll be honest.

i mean, not really.

what you see, would be pretty much ( i presume ) the scope in front of your eye. depending technically, you can still somewhat see the surrounding on the borders. although you aren’t really capable of accurately see what’s around because you are more focused on what you are seeing through the scope.

you… " zoom " in that focal point.

my point is, it’s foolish to claim that you can perfectly see in your focus both the scope it self, what the scope is seeing, and the surroundings as well as the scope at the same time.

you’d had to be a cyclope with a great field of view which humans do not posses. ( outside rare occasions. but exceptions to make up for the rule as it’s entirety )

which, i’m no expert in fire arms but i’m fairly sure that as a human, you cannot phisically be able to look and fire.

hence, why marksmen usually close one of their eye, and look through the scope.
which then, if they need to look around, slighly move their heads up above the scope and tries to look for the surrounding with both eyes opened.

i don’t think you can do both actions ( of looking around and be able to actually still see what’s the scope is "looking at " at the same time. )

yeah but you have to focus on the image it self of the scope to see what’s going on and in the game related shoot at who you see.

i think the way it currently works, it’s somewhat of a balance as you have to get in and out of the zoom if you want to see your surrounding. i’m not fire arm expert again, but sounds at least logical to me in a balance perspective.

otherwise i’d be deadlier twice time more than i currently am using sniper rifles in this game ( and i don’t mean it as a brag, but what i’m saying is, if you get the ability to see your surrounding as well as you are still aimed in, snipers would become i think a bit op. and anyone else in this game that can at least shoot and hit their target, they would to.

hence, that’s why i think the current sniper might not be " realistic " ( i don’t 100% know that you let me think about it ) but sort of.

Do an experiment, cut a circle of paper roughly 45 mm in diameter, hold it 10 cm away from your eye and see how much of you view it blocks.

The surround view is in focus, the scope itself is not because it’s 10 cm away from you eye, the image inside the scope is at the same dept as the surrounding enviroment.

Again, try the paper circle experiment, but keep in mind that ww2 scopes had an even smaller ocular lens.

That’s a sure way to get spotted, the last thing you want to do is to raise your head. Even side to side is risky since the human eye will notice movement first.

What i would find a good compromise would be to get a vignette effect on the left side of the screen when holding your breath if you really wanted to simulate closing one eye before the shot.

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At least, try a real sight (or even a telescope) and draw a conclusion

telescopes and binoculars have a very low eye relief, you literally have to jam your eye in the lens

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I know i posted this picture before but this would be a realistic view of sniping in this game.

sniper 3
compared to real life:

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I’m right handed and my left eye is dominant lol

Well in that case, both eyes open is out of the question for you :sweat_smile:. Close one eye and you’ll do fine.

Or get smth like this