Oh man, I wish I were that optimistic and hopeful for the game becoming P2P. That’s something I WISHED the game would’ve done a while ago. But actually, based on what I’ve heard from others in the community. The F2P model was voted for BY the community. They were given the choice of P2P with dlc’s and I think skins for monetization. But the community opted for the F2P model so that more people could have access to it.
I love the idea of the game becoming P2P tho and actually focusing on becoming a great game. But sadly my Russian friend, that’s not something that’s going to happen anytime in the future especially not after they already have their F2P economy in the game that’s making them money. They really won’t listen to anything else at this point trust me on that
Keep us updated here in this thread! I’m interested in seeing if they can actually pull that off lol. I wouldn’t wanna do it myself at all, but I’m curious to see what comes of that :o
The thing is that as long as you have a game that’s good, fun, and something that players actually enjoy. Then they will pay money for it. Even if it’s a paid product and not free people will go and spend money on it. Look at the games like Battlefield and even HLL. There are games in this sphere that are successful and that show it can be done. That is if the game is good enough to stand on it’s own as a paid product. Which Enlisted could imo if that was the true focus of the dev team. Rather than trying to make these shitty progression systems that are overly grindy in this F2P game.
Now obviously there are costs like server costs and the like which I do understand. But this is Gaijin we’re talking about. They make enough money off their whales to support this kind of thing. Especially if it would’ve been a paid product which would’ve essentially helped a ton with costs.
Honestly, it seems like it was just a panicked decision that they made since they have the data on how people were exploiting it. They probably saw all the huge numbers and just saw dips in their profits, so they decided just to panic and put the worst possible stop they could’ve for this issue. It must’ve been that bad if it caused them to panic
Even then, good I’m glad they shit their pants. With how grindy and egregious the campaign lvl XP bars are, I don’t blame anyone for trying to exploit during this. But I definitely wouldn’t do it myself lol
Same @47509533 and I were doing pvp with eachother with the rest of the slots filled by the bot terminators
Swapping between attacker and defender on different maps having a blast
What a joke
Dude my friend and I were hyped since Custom Matches were announced months ago, we finally get it the other day and now the main point of us playing it is fucking gone. Sure the EXP was cool but I’d trade less EXP for just having full size matches again.
Devs should have fixed the broken AI on some maps instead of downright nuking it.
Nice bussiness model.
They saved me from spending money on this pos again, TWICE IN A MONTH, they should get award for that.
Everyone defending grind and this shit keeps on talking that we should just play one campaign, one faction. Even if You limit Yourself to 12,5% of the game, this argument is omega retarded. You can max everything in 3 months of normal play, 1h a day.
Battle pass is a joke, we got the same rewards 3 times already, first time was nice, but why do i need another 50 silver orders if i am to play one campaign.
Xp is useless one one as on max level you can’ progress anymore, with maxed weapons and soldier all there is to do is shoot at bots or low level guys for hours. Wow so fun, it’s worse than singleplayer, congrats.
And if You want to play diffrent campaign, You get to get stomped with shitty equipment for 100 hours, and you get grind flashbacks and turn this game off.
I guess history repeats itselft after all, and things once good turn bad. Updates used to bring new content and fun, now they take it back. This is reaching update shittines level of beat saber
Lmao max in 3 months with an hour a day? I’m betting that was with premium? Lol without it I don’t have the patience for that. The amounts of XP needed per campaign LEVEL is absolutely insane and mind numbingly ridiculous. This type of grind shouldn’t be defended at all so I agree with you there.
Ngl this saved me from spending money as well. I was actually considering buying premium for once after having fun in the custom games. But after this yeeeaaahhh I’m glad I waited and didn’t do it lol. This seems to be a trend of history repeating itself though as you said. Time and time again they take these drastic measures of putting “band-aids” on things while making their game terrible in the process. Such as is with the “progression system” and how you currently obtain soldiers. Time and time again we see them making the same mistakes. Which just serves as a constant reminder to me as to why I stopped spending money here after I bought the CBT access last year. After they started to continue to charge for CBT access to their other campaigns, I knew in the future other shady or less than idea shit would happen.
They need to introduce lone fighters (hardcore) and hardcore squads to regular matchmaking. Otherwise this update has now just removed features from the game instead of adding something. Custom games is worthless if you have to wait for a lobby to fill up, I wouldn’t be playing enlisted if I liked waiting forever for a match to start, there’s plenty of other games where you can do that.
I think those would be pretty cool in a standard matchmaking set tbh. But idk how I feel about further dividing up players amongst these mini versions of these modes. But it certainly is a cool thought. I really like hardcore squads tho. Imo it’s sooooo much more cooler and fun than the standard mode. I’d definitely prefer this as the default over standard tbh. But ofc I’m only one player and that’s just what I like. Which is why custom games were perfect. Keyword, WERE.
It’s not dividing when the alternative is players leaving the game or playing a lot less. I for one am bored with standard squads mode and I know people who only played lone fighters, the devs just ruined the game for me in two quick updates just after ruining it for new players with the update that prevented them from getting enough soldiers.
Totally agree with you here buddy no contest. Overall they’re really shitting the bed with these recent updates. Just pushing players further and further away from their game…
The simple solution would have been to remove kicking, not destroy custom games completely. I just had a quick look, there are no full games there at all. Good job devs.
No, kicking needs to 100% be a thing and at the hosts discretion
If I host a match I don’t want meta shitters ruining it for everyone carpet bombing with their 188 or A-20
especially not after they already have their F2P economy in the game that’s making them money. They really won’t listen to anything else at this point trust me on that