You did it!

that’s a point

but, i’m sure it will eventually get “fixed”.

( hopefully… maybe. and something be done regarding all the spam )

I knows Keofox acknolwedged it, maybe it the only decent post in the whole tread

Maybe or maybe they decide to keep milk whale let them spamming, only time can answer

I heavily doubt.
Keo stayted they don’t want to limit things so the only other solution is to nerf spamed things.
And then we enter a nerf spiral @gastanofrizzi is talking about. Because when you nerf A, ppl will spam B.

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solution to spam of planes isnt nerfing planes to the ground. it is to make effective counter available to players.
and to effectively counter planes you need effective AA and allied planes fighting enemy planes.
so solutions are:

  1. buff AA
  2. add second vehicle slot for f2p

i mean it is also stupid to have combined warfare, but then be limited to only land or air vehicle for f2p. when planes are no longer solo in the air, their damage will drop exponentially.

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i was fine with planes having less load tbh.

( outside… the russian ones somehow getting buffed over that )

Yeah, everything that’s not a BA spam is a problem for people like you. What a completely selfish guy. We should restrict every fkn enjoyable thing in game. What a nonsense. You should rather learn how to counter those things.

Going forward can we please not change or ‘balance’ core gameplay based of off a few outspoken individuals like ‘quadro’ and his band of bitches.

They DO NOT represent the majority.

We love the inbalance. It is refreshing to be able to use your mind to work around a powerful weapon.

That is the fun of this game.

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Are not even the plane the problem, loadouts change is fine after the merge because with the merge the stuka in moscow dont even fight the t34 anymore so those change are simply innocue, people are pissed for the motive wy they do this this is it

Ps
Adempe cant read what news

Instead we should nerf every enjoyable thing. You are right.

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Weve had too many fun and efficent weapons (area denial) nerfed (that shouldnt have been) because of these god damned people.

perhaps they went a bit earlier for that. i agree on that.

i was about to say that :joy:

his reading capabilities are really dropping low.

like, you are litro in pro for majority of spam outside a few that ovviously you recognize them being a problem yet, he doesn’t and calls you out for… asking certain limitation?

also, pretty sure the BA thing has been made up from him. since you hate HA anyway. ( and i assume bas as well )

well, figure as much…

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i see planes as gamble. cause of long rearm and unknown situation on ground you can either score big or score nothing. having big payload is ok for that. they just need to have counters ready (i wouldnt even be against having some fixed AA emplacements added to maps).

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Dude. Why do they do it with Allies and not with Axis then? Because Allies dont smell weird? Because of some hoax created by the Dems?
Or because Allied stuff is better?
Same asked when the Axis side was popular for a while. Because they didnt smell anymore? Because the Reps made a hoax on their own? Or because DF buffed their ticket- and capture- and bomb-rates into oblivion to the point where it took longer for Allies to disadm bombs than for Axis bombs to blow up?

well, they become a gamble if you use them as such.

perhaps doesn’t cost you much to scan the area and drop a bomb based on your visual and if you get any intel from ally ( which it’s not… 100% of the time needed. a good pilot doesn’t need " enemy coordinates " every single minute )

planes can be powerfull, and should be powerful if used correctly.

granted, we could use and note the " in real life " argument, where bombs were not precise, and mostly done for saturation, but in enlisted kinda works differently.

which, i don’t think planes are op, nor useless.

i do get killed majority of the time by bombs, but it’s a midly inconvenience as… i can just prone and majority of the time, absorb the damage. ( much less my ais, but oh well. it’s called natural selection )

therefore, i never demanded for bomb nerfs ( outside OBT where those used to kill through bunkers and houses… you know, those that were meant to be protected against those ) and never will.

but i ain’t certainly gonna complain against nerfs of bombs loads.

as the helper said, it’s no fun getting nuked on points especially for the average joe. and essentially, make planes more skill based opposed as suicide bombing more convenient. which, yes, we could mention or speak about different approach that could have been taken, but i’d think that was a first step, and eventually would return.

( otherwise prem ain’t gonna sell if they are just straight up similar if not the same to the f2p counter. which, i wouldn’t have liked premium planes being better, but i would have understand it )

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Only from business point of view.
But gameplay-wise, you pretty much gurantee P2W but I guess that is the consequence when your masterrace of Alphas is made of elite whales.
So I dont know how much they really are concerned about gameplay issues.

i mean.

isn’t what happened with the bf 109 f2 in moscow?

didn’t saw much of backlash about it.

( it had bombs, got removed in moscow, for then introduce it with bombs as prem after 7 months )

I dont know how his brain work, i can guess that asking to stop spam the same squad with some limit is too much for him

This is not true i dont dislike HA and BA i have verdun and tanneberg and i keep play them i dislike HA in enlisted, see erika looking at how the game is progressed and how the focus shifted from a coperative ww2 game to a generic ww2 shooter i simply lost every interest on try to add some HA in the game, and now i want only see how a generic battlefield clone enlisted can become

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That is coincidental. Farm players just happen to congregate where people congregate. It is similar to the habits of ants. In fact, a few months ago they were overwhelmingly biased toward the Axis. As you know, that happens in every campaign, and the player polarization changes fluidly from time to time. In campaigns with fewer players, such as Tunisia and the Pacific, the lopsidedness tends to be more fixed and prolonged.
When I play Allies in Tunisia, the attacker slots are often empty. It has become a full PVE, fast paced, and players are spamming with tanks and assault squads + artillery in search of efficiency to mow down bots more quickly.
At least the Beaufighters are not the reason why people are flocking to the Allies now.

I guess nobody played Moscow Axis anymore by tjat time to notice or were too busy (like me) to keep bitching about the Panzer IV.

Not to mention, that one plane vs one plane is different than almost all planes except Tunisia Allies for some reason.

you see problem is that i dont have good gpu so i can max out settings to actually see situation on ground and i play solo. so i can only drop bombs based on map knowledge or if i see flash from tank. sometimes i get 20+ kills, sometimes i get 1-2 kills.

well as i said before… points are too small. we need bigger points amongst other things. i would like pacific style cap points introduced on other campaigns.

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