The us Trials to produce a weapon between SMGs and full powered rifles would eventually lead to the M1/M2 carbine. Many rifles were considered including 5 10 15 and 20 round .30 carbine. would people accept a us 10 round carbine similar to the M1. would they require similar weapons for the three other factions Germany/USSR/Japan first. Is it one step to far to bring sa rifles to br1 at all or would it be a nice introduction for early players to sa rifles.
[![A photo of the prototype Auto Ordnance carbine submitted to the US Light Rifle Program in 1941.|740x160]
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A firearm commonly referred to as the “Auto-Ordnance Carbine”, that was submitted by Auto-Ordnance for testing in the
US Light Rifle Trials in 1941. The rifle was chambered in
.30 Carbine. It ultimately was never adopted.
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“Would people accept a br1 semi auto”
Why shouldn’t they?! We already have BR I semi-auto weapons → Winchester 1866
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Germans have Beretta 1918/30, US has the Smith and Wesson Lite rifle, the Winchester 1866, and the Soviets have the KB-P-135, all level one Semi auto’s. Unfortunately, all are also Battle Pass weapons. Fortunately though for me, I own them all, but it would be nice to have some TT semi auto’s. These would all make good TT weapons as none are over powering, but all have low recoil and decent ROF.
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They built the Thompson M1 I own.
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Wait, you can own an SMG based gun? This makes me cry, since in Australia we can’t own “military arms”. We can still own semi autos and pumps, but you need special clearances (mostly farmers and pest controllers).
Bolts and other manual actions are fairly easy to obtain. Same as handguns. Oh, and we can legally buy these things that are probably considered felonies in the US.
This is the definition of a short barrelled rifle right?
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Here in northern EU to own fully automatic gun as invidual you are required to have a gun collector license and obtain said guns for that purpose. To fire the said guns assault rifles / smg / machine gun you need to request a permission to do so for each time.
Also the biggest problem to obtain such license is to have storage for such guns, some have bought old bank vaults for said purposes.
And some gun ranges aka companies do also have fully automatic smg’s and some reservist groups / companies.
As active reservist you can obtain somewhat easily semi-automatic assault rifles as long as its for training purposes. Id guess same goes for semi smg’s but not sure.
The murrican gun laws are something ridiculously different from gun being easy to obtain as jug of milk to cant obtain this gun because assault something something.
Im no expert of murrican gun laws but they do seem quite ridiculous from northern EU perspective
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There is plenty of BR1 semis already.
I was in law enforcement for a few years and had (it’s now expired) a license to carry, but even with those fully auto was illegal. I think, a gun collector can own a fully auto, but they are highly regulated so I am not sure what they would have to do to own them. My former boss has an original WW2 Grease gun, which he is very old and calls his Thompson. . 
He used to get pissed when I would correct him, so I just let him believe he owned a Thompson. He is a millionare, and also owns a 1903 Springfield, and for Christmas one year he gave me his WW2 Japanese Type 99 Rifle, which I thought was pretty cool. The Thompson, both 1911’s and the Type 99 are all my son’s now. My youngest son is not old enough to own a hand gun, so, the other 1911 is his when he is of age. BTW, I had a small 9mm Ruger that I bought for my Filipina wife, but after she passed away in 2021 I gave it to my son. It is smaller and easier to conceal and carry then the 1911.
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I must admit im not sure how the law enforcement thing goes here, technically here in northern EU you are not allowed to carry a gun at all with you, exception being from home to shooting range.
But decades ago there were some sort of bodyguard permissions, absolutely no idea how that thing works since its extreme margin who has such permits or do they even exist anymore.
Far as I know not even regular police officers arent allowed to carry a gun without purpose on them while off duty and some units do have smg’s but far as I know outside of actual special forces they are all just semi automatic.
Sorry to hear that, wish you and your family all the best
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Thank you, she is missed. In the US you can carry in some States, but there are some you can’t, but that could have changed by now. You need to pass an FBI background check before you can buy, and the State of Iowa gave me my permit to carry. I didn’t carry because at that time I only had my 45, and it was a little on the bulky side, and if I holstered it, it still made people nervous.
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I thought it would be. Still pretty cool to own a piece of American history (although slightly altered). The only universal gun law is full auto is prohibited for civilian ownership (except in certain circumstances).
It’s the same here. I’m pretty sure for any of the licences (or at least category D and above, which are centrefire semi auto and full capacity pumps) you have to get permission from the local police station before you can buy another. And there are limits to how many of what you can own.
Like here. In a lot of countries, black powder arms aren’t actually considered firearms. Here, they are, and you need a licence to use and buy one. Unless it’s a actual 1770 Brown Bess, which doesn’t require it. But technically still does, because it fits the description of a firearm.
Why can’t gun laws make more sense.
Interesting, in the state I live in, someone as young as 11 can apply for a handgun under a minor’s licence. I think the only thing is that a minor can’t own their own weapon, but they can use other’s.
It might sound weird letting someone that young use a handgun, but the only way you can obtain firearms legally is through proof from a shooting club or if you have certificate saying you’re a primary producer (aka farmer). Most of the time it’ll probably be the farmer’s child.
Our self defence laws are really strange. You can’t own a gun for self defence (which is fine), but you also can’t use knives or baseball bats when protecting your own home, even though the intruders carry machetes and whatever else. We tried a while ago to change it to allow us necessary force to protect our home, but nothing changed.
Surely you could’ve kept the Type 99? I thought the Philippines allowed bolts, not a complete ban on guns. But I suppose it’s probably a farmer only permit?
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Had I not moved to the Philippines, this was the next gun on my list. Sportsman Warehouse in the US sells a ton of weapons, and several WW2 reproductions. If you can see the ad, they call these pistols because of ATF regulations and the barrel length. I could have altered my Thompson as they sell the correct WW2 barrel, however I would have had to apply to the ATF for permission. I think it was a couple hundred bucks for the application.
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