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At this rate I’m expecting you to say we need to switch to manual lobbies because matchmaking isn’t predictable
what???
If the community haven’t reached a consensus about what they want it to change to, the devs cannot put the work in to change it since the chances are the community will feel the same or worse about it, hence it is completely pointless lol.
So instead of continually asking for a change, how about you continue discussions on what it should be changed to until a consensus is reached, or better yet, stop going on about it when there is zero evidence they will monetise it poorly, if they do, then you can complain, but until then, either be constructive, or stop going on.

If the community haven’t reached a consensus about what they want it to change to, the devs cannot put the work in to change it since the chances are the community will feel the same or worse about it, hence it is completely pointless lol.
They changed the MGs to Madsen/ZB36/MG13, without anyone in the community asking for that. Don’t think everybody liked these changes.

So instead of continually asking for a change, how about you continue discussions on what it should be changed to until a consensus is reached
Last time I checked the devs did have a brain of their own and are capable of coming up with ideas for themselves. We had a massive ammount of people complaining about the current system before the playerbase practically died. Before you go on about it isn’t dead, look at the current threads per week, and how it used to be quadruple that back when CBT started. We also did not have issues filling up Soviet teams back then.

stop going on about it when there is zero evidence they will monetise it poorly
HELLO??? PREMIUM SQUADS??? Dont go telling me you think the premium squads are perfectly fine. So far, in the poll, a mere 17% voted that they were okay, 38% voted for total removal, the rest voted for nerfs.
LMAO you have no idea what you are talking about.

They changed the MGs to Madsen/ZB36/MG13, without anyone in the community asking for that
Obviously they can make their own changes lol, but that is incredibly minor compared to the hotly debated topic of progression

Last time I checked the devs did have a brain of their own and are capable of coming up with ideas for themselves. We had a massive ammount of people complaining about the current system before the playerbase practically died.
When the community are actively debating something, coming up with their own ideas and not reaching a consensus themselves, it is highly ridiculous to think that the devs will input a random change requiring a huge effort, including massive rebalancing that for all they know could be received worse when there is so much more productive stuff to be working on like preparing for OBT and fixing actual bugs and issues that are well defined.

HELLO??? PREMIUM SQUADS???
This is where you really show yourself to know nothing, the premium squads are barely more than you can build yourself in game, with the only difference being that they have more maximum SMGs in the squad, yes it takes a while, but you can build a free squad near as good, besides, the premium squads are easy to take out from any appreciable range and make little difference in close quarters to a regular SMG squad fully capable of doing the exact same. Besides, those packs are for getting access to the CBT, for supporting the devs, then getting the reward of the squads, they are not actual monetisation.

When the community are actively debating something, coming up with their own ideas and not reaching a consensus themselves
We had a consensus that we need the RNG removed, at least.

Besides, those packs are for getting access to the CBT, for supporting the devs, then getting the reward of the squads, they are not actual monetisation.
LITTERAL DEFINITION OF MONETIZATION
“the action or process of earning revenue from an asset, business, etc.”
How is EARNING MONEY from a PREMIUM ASSET not monetization???

We had a consensus that we need the RNG removed, at least.
And replaced with what precisely? How are you going to get equipment etc and LMAO, in case you didn’t notice, they actually did modify that aspect by guaranteeing certain weapons of your choice dependent on what you have access to

LITTERAL DEFINITION OF MONETIZATION
“the action or process of earning revenue from an asset, business, etc.”
How is EARNING MONEY from a PREMIUM ASSET not monetization???
It is support, not monetisation, that is literally the entire point of the CBT lol, to support the devs with feedback, and yes, money, but in case you hadn’t realised, such is a necessity and a fact of life.
And as stated, the premium squad is not nearly as overpowered as people like you love to suggest, I haven’t played much recently but I never noticed them when I did because they function almost identically to a normal SMG squad which is entirely capable of doing the same, plus grenades and knives exist for the close quarters where they excel which are both one hit kills and even at medium range they are essentially the same as the free counterparts, the squads are literally just a small improvement with a unique but functionally identical gun as a direct reward for the support. (Yes such support isn’t directly stated but nor does it have to be since that is the point of a CBT and what you get is clearly laid out.)
Ok I give up, you’re clearly too delusional to be reasoned with.
- No need to resort to insults but
- Says the person repeatedly asking the same thing without there being something to change it to and expecting anything so large to be done without confidence in the change being liked. (Among other, very ridiculous statements).

This is where you really show yourself to know nothing, the premium squads are barely more than you can build yourself in game, with the only difference being that they have more maximum SMGs in the squad, yes it takes a while, but you can build a free squad near as good, besides, the premium squads are easy to take out from any appreciable range and make little difference in close quarters to a regular SMG squad fully capable of doing the exact same.
Just a few quick notes to this one…
- Barely more than you can build yourself in the game? Yes… at some extend, however you need to sink months of long grinding to get even half of it. That alone makes it fishy. And no, you can´t really build squad that is “near” that good because… point 2.
- With current map size and current meta, that alone is an issue because you literally have best squad possible that literally beats everything else IF you pay. That is among definitions of P2W.
- No, they aren´t easy to take out because of 1. health perks that should not even be in the game, 2. recoil perks when taking damage. While everyone dies if you empty whole magazin in him (how unsurprising), chad eating action bolt bullets and then proceeding to wipe entire squad without any effort is not okay.
- Little difference in close quarters? You must be joking. SMGs are literally made for medium and close distance and that is where they shine. If you also take small maps we have now, you have perfect recipe for P2W disaster… as we could see on day 2 after CBT release. And no, “regular” SMG squad cannot do the same, because they do not have all overpowered perks right on start and good luck grinding them under such conditions.

however you need to sink months of long grinding to get even half of it.
looks at war thunder
Yes, and we don´t want to end up like war thunder where top tier premiums are ruining everyone´s good experience. Right? Right?!
(Also, in War Thunder non top tier premium vehicles are often not P2W, or just variations of tech tree vehicles so no I hold no ill feelings to those… unless its obj 120 etc. screw these things)
At least war thunder does not sell premium Leopard 2A7s where everyone else can get Leo2A6.
If you ask me the game stops being fun past 3.3 regardless just on the grounds of horrible balance without premiums involved.

chad eating action bolt bullets and then proceeding to wipe entire squad without any effort is not okay.
That does not happen LMAO, sometimes there are server bugs or spawn protection, but any soldier in game will go down easily unless of course you simply shoot them in the extremities

2 With current map size and current meta, that alone is an issue because you literally have best squad possible that literally beats everything else IF you pay. That is among definitions of P2W.
As I stated, the normal SMG squads are entirely capable of doing precisely the same and knives and grenades exist which are one hit kills for any soldier.

Little difference in close quarters? You must be joking. SMGs are literally made for medium and close distance and that is where they shine.
The normal SMG squad is literally the first new squad you unlock in the campaign currently, fully capable of doing the same, making that point moot, an SMG is an SMG and whilst the free SMG is initially worse, I have done exactly what you are describing as P2W without paying anything with only two SMG soldiers in my squad, both essentially stock and realistically just me against a room full of other soldiers. So don’t tell me you cannot do the same, maybe you just need to actually play well lol.

At least war thunder does not sell premium Leopard 2A7s where everyone else can get Leo2A6.
Are you seriously trying to claim that is anything close to what is happening here?!

Are you seriously trying to claim that is anything close to what is happening here?!
Well… yes? Fully leveled premium squad that is better in every way than any maxed out squad? Does that ring a bell in this aspect?

As I stated, the normal SMG squads are entirely capable of doing precisely the same and knives and grenades exist which are one hit kills for any soldier.
No, they aren´t, simply because they usually do not have all said perks stacked together, backed by 6 more SMG armed guys from same squad.

That does not happen LMAO, sometimes there are server bugs or spawn protection, but any soldier in game will go down easily unless of course you simply shoot them in the extremities
That does happen far too often unless you shoot them with soviet action bolts that can at least down them. Yes, you can do the same with axis action bolts IF you suffer through insane RNG system to upgrade their damage to be viable.

Well… yes? Fully leveled premium squad that is better in every way than any maxed out squad? Does that ring a bell in this aspect?
MP41 vs MP40
Double perk capacity
+3 assaulters, arguably makes the squad better at what it was designed to do (assaulting a point)
Yup. See no pay to win here at all
Or lets talk about combination of PPD drums and PPKs lol. If you get close enough to them through PPK fire, good luck dealing with PPD. In that aspect I actually like soviet premium squad more. Now, which non premium squad can do that? Right… none (no matter how much time you spend grinding)
I tire of this ridiculous discussion, I do not have the time, nor the extra brain cells to lose to this discussion any further.

MP41 vs MP40