Will Berlin Soviets ever become playable again?

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Ever since the merge was announced/KT(H) added, Soviets Berlin have been a 100% loss probability.

Even now after so much time has passed the player numbers/gear ranges are not even comparable.

As soon as you launch the match all you see in kill feed is MG-45, King Tiger H, STG-44, Jagdpanther, Conders, G43 Kurz, MP-41(r), etc.
And I don’t blame them, I have most of that gear too (the free stuff) and I would use it but…

I guess I just have to say unlocking IS-2 and Fedorov a big fat GOODBYE before the merge?

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It just feels like this will never stop now?

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Soon we will have merge and top BR of Moscow going to disappear so those players will be forced to play Berlin like slaves so we will see how many of them going to stick especially with 2x Soviet paras and then AR engineer squad.

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i do want them to come back tbh since i need their gear but going from 1 hell straight into another might give me a bad headache

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BR system just did the PPSh drum real dirty like why they insist to share the same BR as assault rifles to the point that its better to just use the AS-44 on top tier over PPSh. I could imagine IS-2 share same BR as Tiger II(H) too despite their BRs are much lower in War Thunder for a good reason.

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not much lower, the H is 6.7 while the 43 is-2 is 6.3 and the IS-2 44 is 6.7 as well

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Federov MG squad is going to tier5; basically serving as T5 engineer assaulters (if slower due to LMG)

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it is not 100%, it is more like 70%.

yeah… it simply isnt worth it to suffer there if you go solo… only way to fight this is to get some fully grinded veterans who can counter KT(H) and other high level spam.

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Generally speaking if u want some realistic high tier stuff for Berlin that ISU-122/152 should be here; if you really want to add some spice than IS-3 is necessary, since it was only just late to participate in battle (germans folded too quickly IRL)

ISU is in game along with the Jagdtiger, it would be good to see both tbh.

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Federov MG doesn’t have slowness debuff.

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Even better then; Soviets now will have almost 2 assault engineer squads (1 event, 1 premium).
+2 paras and I think their general strength goes up by new year.

Vehicles could use more love hence the ISU152/IS3 suggestion.

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There were 125 built in May 1945. If they added AS-44 they can add IS-3.

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iirc the most annoying thing about Federov MG (for its owner) is pretty long reload time. Especially if you take in consideration it has only 25 mag.

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Sure, but its still a reasonably strong squad with 2 engineers + HMG nest ability.

I actually think allies are gonna get run over by the Krauts come merge (at top tier); USA tree pretty anemic to the combined might of the Axis T5.

Generally I think with upcoming promised Soviet squads only their vehicle tree could use more love in regards to balancing; IS2 needs some friends

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Yep, it’s pretty much one of the best (if not best) premium squads for Soviet.
Edit: Ohhh, I forgot about upcoming AR premium paras.

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oh 100% at top tier, mid to low tier will be more even i think

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Only ADS and rof is slowed rest is the same it even has better accuracy than actual Fedorov MG. 0.2sec slower reload is nothing i don’t even notice. It’s the best soviet squad in a game in my opinion as long as you pre-ads when peeking corners otherwise that slower ads speed may kill you against AR/smg

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I have never compared it to progression Federov, since I don’t own it.
For me personally, the reload time is extremely noticeable and annoying.

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It’s more annoying on Fedorov Avtomat since it’s less accurate due having much higher dispersion and a bit more of visual recoil. I wish it would have like 30mag size or more but you can’t have everything, maybe we will get one of those crazy Fedorovs
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Lol, that’s actually funny af xD

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nah a 9 man pure bolt action squad is better