This might sound controversial, but I do think that the Tiger 1 is a more annoying and overpowered threat than the P-47 and here’s why. You have 4 methods of killing a tank, grenades (Molotov’s and explosive packs), RPG’s (M1 and M9 bazookas), Rifle-launched grenades (Mainly HEAT projectiles but these aren’t the best for tank killing in campaigns such as Normandy or Berlin, and aircraft (this might need marking the tank first and knowledge of where a bomb will land and rocket velocity). I’ve tried using explosive packs on a Tiger but either the tracks absorbed the blast or when on the roof it was like the tank had some sort of ERA armor. Molotov’s took really long to ignite the engine and most tiger crews I’ve encountered had Bretta M38s or MP43s. The PIAT is like trying to use an airsoft gun against a special forces squad because it has little to no effect on the tank and bazookas apparently cause no harm on the sides or do much on the rear unless they hit the roof of the vehicle while grenade launchers have a similar effect, and this brings me to my point. The P-47 has 2 ways of killing it, Anti-Air guns or fighter pilots who are decent in dogfighting aircraft. The former is more difficult while the latter is easier to come by, so I’ll explain that because AA guns are straight forward. The P-47 has a large payload which means if you’re lucky enough to find it still armed with its many rockets and bombs it will be easy pickings thanks to most German fighters having a 20mm or 30mm large caliber gun and a few 13mm for support and even if its pylons are empty it will have to either throttle down and hope you go too fast and overtake it or pray for someone to get in a mustang and shoot it down because American planes aren’t known for fast turn rates, you’ll also have a 20-30 second interval where the plane will need to resupply and fly back to the fight while the Tiger can just sit there and snipe with HE rounds and a few rapid firing MG 34’s. This is also why the map Ver-sur-Mer needs a total rework because the 1st and 2nd points for invasion will have axis tanks spawn camping and killing anyone who walks right out of the spawn and onto the barb wire-infested beach. The bunker is also easy to defend with just a few barbed wire and sandbags being put under the crater on the roof, but most people get sniped when they walk onto it leading to the dire need of flamethrowers. the 2nd point is impossible to take if the enemy has spawn camping tanks or you haven’t built a rally point close enough to the lighthouse which is why this map is harder to take than D-Day. I hope to get much feedback if you guys agree with me or not.
Definitely dont agree. The P47 is far more devastating than the Tiger and much harder to get rid of. Its also more present because its available at a much lower level.
Tldr: planes have more killing power and are more annoying than tanks
You do realize in campaigns such as Moscow the T-34 dominates and, in most cases, can be more annoying than planes like the Stuka and IL-2
Ju 188 and P47 are far more annoying than any tank in that campaign. The payloads in Normandy are far bigger than any other campaign
Tanks have armor and are easier to learn, if I’m in a P-47 and know that there’s a good bf 109 or fw 190 in the air I’d rather use a jumbo.
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Are we trying to argue and compare a tank to a… plane (?!) here???
But joke aside, I automatically desert both this map and dday. I hate both whatever the side.
P-47 is so easy to shoot down. It’s like flying a bus with an elephant on its back. Can’t turn, can’t climb, can’t outrun. Only thing going for it, is it’s payload
Okay, i don’t see anyone bringing out the 109s or 190s because they have no payload and dedicated engineer squads are rare, i started bringing mine purely as a testament to my dedication to the removal of the p47 for my line of sight.
Still proves my point
I do agree that planes have more killing power despite having a longer downtime due to the need to reload each bombing run. Tanks are more annoying in early war campaigns due to the most AT weapons the infantry have being AT rifles unlike in campaigns Berlin with the Panzerfaust which is why I don’t feel guilty in using T-34 in Moscow with all the tank spammers there.
There are cases like the IS-2’s 122mm HE that’s even better than 250kg bombs because of its presence in the battlefield is much more prevalent than the plane that has to fly away to reload which takes more time than the IS-2 reloading but only few people have it let alone know how to use it properly.
If T-34s are more annoying than planes, then there’s this one German guy spamming Panzer IVs with two on his lineup with the premium Panzer IV in his lineup too besides the regular Panzer IV to the point that I wrecked him so hard with a single T-34 the entire match and even stole the best tanker award from him.
Hunting down a tiger, if you have at least two braincells, isn’t a hard task. I would even argue that jumbo is overall harder to kill than tiger.
P47 on the other hand, is enormously overpowered. Great manoeuvrability, soaks bullets like nothing, HVARS that have great accuracy can wipe out half enemy team and any tank that it points at.
So no, large metal box with big gun isn’t more op than object flying at 600km/h with rockets capable enough to wipe entire point out
Funny how some axis player mostly premium ones spam panzers all match looking for easy kills/xp and when someone wrecks them with a T-34 or even a T-50 they quickly come ask for nerfs.
Tiger can be one shot trough its front with an M10 or the 76 M4A1 Sherman because it has non-sloped armor. I have more issues dealing with a Panther than a Tiger. In fact, controversial opinion, but I struggle to find a clear advantage to using the Tiger over the Panther (other than the fact that you are driving a Tiger). Panther may not have the best anti-tank and anti-infantry capabilities, but it’s still a tank with 2 mg’s on it. You get into a very good position it can be difficult for the allies to kill you unless they happen to have an M10, which is not a very popular vechicle.
In normandy the tiger is an unecessary advantage
In berlin is another story
Panther is OP but dont instant kill soviet veichle like, tiger and tiger II(p), because Panther shell have better penetration but less explosive power than tiger one
Tiger can also one shot M10, the 76 M4A1 Sherman and even the Firefly. I prefer to use Tiger over Panther so I could one shot any American tank when landed with a good hit along with the powerful HE. I die in my Tiger from planes and explosive packs more than enemy tanks unlike the same German tanks in Berlin that die more to enemy tanks than planes.
You forgot that aa guns can turn it into Swiss cheese with little to no effort
M10’s and Sherman 76(W) don’t have armor either
Because the Germans dont have nuke rockets but wanky 250kg bombs which are kinda harder to use than rockets.
Also the P-47 is not defenseless unlike pretty any Ju87.
Because Stuka has paper armor. IL on the other hand…