Why the game isn't growing as it should

Im talking about the game is 90% AI (exagerated, probably more like 6-7 Average AI per player)…Currently they barely do anything except pad the Veterans kills… so if the players dont do anything and the AI dont do anything = massive stomp.

At the very least the AI could do something or actually be a bit more of a threat, absent a competent player. AI is the majority of the battlefield…needs to be less “special”

not talking about solving the issue…just making it better

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But that would make the matches even more lopsided - bad players will go afk in spawn shooting mortars or yapping on radio or stargaze in some damn water tower, taking all their improved bots with themz preventing them from doing anything useful either. The team actually doing things will now have even more firepower killing the few people trying to stop them :confused:

Ive got more thoughts on that. Will be posting on it at some point…probably more on making a realistic mode, so the arcade shit show can stay as it is.

Like:

  • having 5 or so dedicated AI squads slots per team per game (always active on their own)
  • Removing AI tether
  • AI using grenades and smoke
  • AI Shooting while moving (slowly advance)
  • AI Using all emplacements
  • Increasing rally minium distance from objectives
  • Proper AI medics
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Why the game isn’t growing as it should

It may sound strange from me, but it’s because the game is Russian.
The Russian gaming industry has not developed, it literally stopped in time in 2008. Then they all imitated Korean MMOs with total grind and donations. Nothing has changed. These people still believe that the player should be kept in the most uncomfortable conditions, supposedly this stimulates spending money. And donations should be for everything and should be expensive.
Do I need to explain why this does not work? Especially in 2024?

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Its not growing because the updates are lackluster.

For example war thunder updates are overhyped, but they also deliver all the cool stuff, their next update will be a BLAST how many additions and upgrades even RTX i have no idea too many and many of you play WT as well so you should know, how about the next update for Enlisted ?

" Added a feature that allows the testing of weapons and vehicles in practice mode before purchase. "

Yep and a ton of hotfixes these are the differences and THE perfect explaination why Enlisted is not growing as it should.

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Tbf most players dont and other players are tired to be constantly forced to build them.

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this happens to me sometimes. i just jump into plane or tank and dont care whether we win or lose.

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Ah, a fellow person of culture…sometimes it do be like that…

Although, so far, I’m mostly in this camp:


Hard games can be very fun

But any time I look through the games I recorded for the day (and for games worth turning into a gameplay video)…the best ones and the most interesting ones are where the teams were at least within same league.

Forget SBMM, just making sure both teams each have at least a few somewhat geared and experienced players (or at least making sure neither has a massive BR/experience advantage) would do wonders for average game quality and how many people can enjoy the game.

Spending 40 minutes in a defence mission where enemy team will not leave spawn to me feels like having my soul put through the earth’s slowest paper shredder.

i spend most my time scoring points, i care little about ktdr i focus on the objective, that and killing tanks those dirty, dirty fun gray camping kill counters. what was i saying oh yes must kill the tanks first always, them and the dirty tank baby sitters, can drown a tank until you take out the BS LOL.

I feel the problem with enlisted is Gaijin/DF are running it like War Thunder. The thing WT has that enlisted doesn’t is that WT has no competitors. Sure, you can argue the same for enlisted, but most people new players won’t stick with the game for those unique aspects if other aspects cough grind cough unbalanced teams cough are bad. WT on the other hand is a unique game. It has far more unique about it than enlisted. So running Enlisted like WT will never work - people are unwilling to go through the grind to get the weapons they want(MG-42, M1 garand, Tommy, etc.) when in another game you could get it far quicker.

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no its three non unique games in one
its world of warships, world of warplanes, world of tanks

enlisted is unique tell me any squad based shooter, rts do not count
by squad i mean where the player controls a squad not is in one

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Where is the WW2 shooter competition of Enlisted?
HnG? Dead.
Hell Let Loose? Different game.
PS? Different game.
CoD Vanguard? I think its also pretty much dead in terms of player numbers and Activision probably already forgot its existence.
BFV? Discontinued so game will never get more content.
ER2? Too niche and most people dont know it exists (and graphics is probably too ugly for consoomers anyways)

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Enlisted is quite different from other games…but it’s nothing like WT where it is basically one and only thing with nothing even close

The uniqueness of Enlisted comes from a combination of several factors:

  • its quite fast paced (important for me because I do not have the eyesight nor the patience to crawl on the ground for minutes on end only to get picked off by a pixel 1km away like in HLL or Squad)
  • unlike other fast paced shooters…it is not mindless run and gun (at least when the match is sufficiently balanced). Map control matters. You have so many varied tools your choices often literally win or lose the game. Good paratrooper drop can completely destroy enemy’s team ability to control the objective AND you can sneak in a ratmaxxed rally point to boot. Bad paratrooper drop means you just wasted precious minutes as your team is bleeding out. Do you use an APC? Do you try Gorillaz? Maybe you have to take a vehicle out to deal with enemy stuff? etc
  • vehicles using WT models mean using them is actually bonkers, especially for planes. Different types of airplanes call for different tactics, be it against infantry, enemy tanks or enemy air. Is your airplane a speedboi? Or a turnboi? A bomb truck? etc

But it all requires both teams to be reasonably equal (not perfectly equal, just within rock throwing distance) And I fear a lot of people simply might never get a chance to experience the good side, only the horrific snoozefests:
Pathetically weak defenders mean you are just running from objective to objective, often without even shooting anyone.
Pathetically weak attackers mean you are dying of boredom waiting for someone on the enemy team to leave spawn

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Funny that AI squadmates dont get mentioned once in Enlisted unique selling points here. Makes me think.

Never played any other game than Enlisted I see.
Also, this depends because I had 30min matches where we just slashed defenders trying to teach cap zone until they gave up and started to snipe camp, turning it into boring WW1 simulator.

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Nice one. Made me laugh.

Yeah, not like in other games I guess.

And yet it always comes down to building rallies and spamming SMGs, SFs and ARs and maybe MGs if they dont require bipod to hit a tank. And rallies is optional since most people dont build them.

Not gonna find many of them because they are event or gold-locked. Nice to know though that this game is so great that it locks tools behind paywall though.

No, they suck.

No, because otherwise no one is trying to capture the CP or build rallies.

Oh yeah except buggier and that tanks and planes are way slower and clunkier than in WT and get stuck in every goddamn trash pile. That and that we cant select ammo and payload and that light tanks are useless in this game.
I dont know. I prefer tanks that can drive over a trash bin over worse version of WT models.

I dont know. I must admit Enlisted made me met new kind of gamers I thought I would never met because they dont exist like Rocket Men that call you a racist for wanting to move air spawns further away and zionists and whales who only play videogames for the grind.

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in enlisted you can spam SMGs and cap the points or you can flank and sneak around destroying enemy rally points and these two playstyles are equally valuable. So it might be mindless run and gun depending on whether you want it or not.

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wow event squads are a paywall, wow i must be rich

compared to something like cod, where you literally run in circles shooting people appearing from thin air it’s not mindless
try bruteforcing a cap zone against a decent team and tell the class how well that worked

what are the other games? being a worm simulators like HLL and Squad, which I’m not interested in whatsoever. Even battlefield completely gave up on any pretense of map control, you just instantly respawn next to people who killed you like in cod now

I thought we grew out of “planes are slower than in WT” nonsense by now. Yeah, ground vehicle driving can be…questionable, but they are still better than idiot boxes with HP like in other games
And literally no other fps game has airplanes like Enlisted

tbh paratroopers should get a tech tree version

yep paratroopers with rifles like god and my vanity demand, more is always welcome
lol maybe anti tank para Original U.S. WWII 1945 Dated Paratrooper M18 Recoilless Rifle with Fi – International Military Antiques

Its not really what you do, but who you do that with/ against.
And the who are dumbass bots and dumbass players. So its mindless because your enemies and most allies dont have one to beginn with.

Well, lucky you that you can afford the time to play that many matches all the time I guess because a lot of people here dont have it or didnt play the game when the event was on air.