I can but I think it’s gonna be a long post so let’s do it a bit later then
As long as it isn’t “forcing to play both sides”, it might become interesting.
I do have another example for that one:
Imagine wanting to play enlisted, but instead your computer thinks H&G needs some more players so you get into a H&G match.
Sounds unfun? Sounds unfair? Sounds ridiculous? Well that is how unfun, unfair and ridiculous forced both side queue would be in Enlisted.
And with that ima call it a night. Need to get rid of all the salt that was thrown at me before sleeping
Ahahahs
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Imagine wanted to play red team but your computer tells you you have to be blue instead.
I would quit.
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There is a lot of derailment, completely unnecessary, inflammatory comments being made here… if it continues any further and a civil discussion cannot be maintained, thread will be closed. Cleanup in progress…
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They gave soviets weaker weapons from the start. Soviet premium weapon is worse and almost every other weapon is meh…
The only advantage is +1 more damage rifle but german one still reloads faster.
a TON of players got annoyed with this and started switching sides meaning that SU grows weaker and Germany grows stronger
I have found that PPD sometimes does no damage when it should.
For example: I fire 5 bullets which should be 5.5 * 5 = 27.5 damage done
But my enemy is still alive and well even if 27.5 is more than enough to take him down (15 damage in torso kills the player)
well.
i feel like that this problem has arleady dressed up by many times,
but i do understand that you can’t see every single post.
otherwise, from a soviet, and german player, the problem that i encounter, are the lack of players for soviet side.
second issues is, most of the soviet players are just… greedy. make kills in every cheeasy way as they can. not sure if they started to play like that just to trying to compensate when they are about to loose.
hey, don’t get me wrong. killing plays a good part in the game. but what i’m trying to explain, is that few soviet players plays objective… the others, doom the entire match as they prefer to stay away from the objective, place some mg nest, or sit in tanks and make kills.
also, germans are not " try harder " or like someone likes to think.
they just objectivly, play the objective, tring to rush. and get the job done. ( blitzkrieg be like )
just because they suceed, doesn’t mean they are tryharder.
unfortunally, this pointless arguing there will always be people claiming: " german/soviet bias " since there are people not understanding that this game, it’s somewhat balance ( exept for tanks ) and they can’t just accept the defeat.
and lasty, many soviet matches these days are just filled with bots. not players.
i’m confident and i do believe that those problems will be fixed once in open beta. as basically everyone will be able to join. but we have to change other stuff in order to get there such as the progression systtem.
but, you are right. unfortunally enlisted it’s not going well as there’s an already " bad " promoting campaign.
many big youtubers arleady catched the nasty hairy ball in the throat of enlisted…
op perks, and basically somewhat, OP premium squads with their unique smgs.
and i don’t think forcing players to play one side, or another will be a good thing.
the grinding would become endless. example; i dont’ see why if in 10 games i played as soviet, i should play as a german. as the matchmaking would be incosinstent due to my equipment being low ( as i didn’t played that much on the german side )
and most likely, people will leave the matches in order to get their wanted faction.
thank god, there’s some sort of system that if you leave, you don’t get xp, but this does not prevent people from leaving at the beginning of the match.
( and if you ban for 10 minuts people that leave you are not considering the people that sometimes, might occasionally lag and get kicked from that )
That’s just generalizing. There are hundreds of examples why is your theory false. If soviets focus only in getting kills, why are they never getting them?
The biggest problem is that a lot of players switch to playing Germany because they get disappointed with soviet teams and weaker weapon/tank/anti-tank choices.
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lollllolllol perfect counter …
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exept. it’s not. my friend.
you might be exscused during invasion in defence, but not during conquests, or attack part of invasion.
this is why people lose.
if you don’t cooperate with your team, you are a dead weight on your own.
guess what, enlisted it’s a team focus objective game.
you tell me?
unfortunally, the only weaker thing here, is your point.
( aside from the tank, i’ll give you that one )
sorry, i’ll reprahse. give me a sec:
soviet weapons are not weaker in any way.
you don’t have a reduction on your weapons like the german do. and yet, didn’t changed that much.
anti tank rifles are buggy. which might inpact the ant tank weapon choise, but they are still preatty much alive.
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So, the system of balance is equal for the most fps multi-player games. You can choose side except time one team is full of players and the other doesnt have. Also there is upgrade system is RO2.
Sometimes during the battle it can be auto balancing.
And I don’t think it will be a trouble. The thing that is in RO2 after a game goes next step - is to chose a next map and start again. In Enlisted it’s not like this.
Every time you have to wait some time before game will find amount of players for both sides here in Enlisted. Then we just have to wait before both sides will be fine.
My solution
If it’s not game notice you - you got to change a side or wait a little more. Players who don’t wanna play only one side will change a side and it will be fine.
And
In my opinion play only one side all time is ridiculous. And absolutely all reasons to do it stinks. I like to play krauts for a while. If someone like to introduce himself as an experienced player maybe he ought to know all in-game mechanics of both sides.
My solution.
It’s good to have a free experience which can be spent in a side you choose no matter which side you play by obtaining this experience
You do realize you were generalizing a whole a whole team?
German teams have more kills on conquest
You are literately saying that only greedy players play Soviets, think about your words
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Well issue here is that the matchmaker wont decide which side is full until the match starts
So I am going 100/3 K/D on one side, almost capping the last point… autobalance
Uuuh, no thanks.
This could help, but due to the nature of unlocking stuff and spending a long time in the main menu managing your soldiers to make them marginally better after every match, I do not think this would work out as most players would prefer to go back to main menu.
This is already done - there are players who queue Soviets/Both to increase their queue times.
One could say playing one game all the time is equally ridiculous. But you can’t go telling people how to spend their time or how to enjoy themselves.
Now this is something I can see working. This XP would be a seperate resource and could be invested into anything you want to invest it into, and the side with less people (Soviets) would get this XP?
Well if they play the objective better, they will set up a defensive perimeter and mow down any Soviets walking to or past the objective. The objectives often have a lot of positions to shoot incomming people from, so naturally the Germans would get more kills that way.
it’s from my experience.
deal with it.
generalizing, or not,
most of the matches that everyone plays as soviet it’s lost due to the same results.
over, and over, and over.
you can’t expect to win doing the same thing as before.
complaining about other’s faction weapons when the fault it’s about not using proper tactic to deal with the enemy.
Like this, yes
German teams are better right now because they have more players and thats absolutely not what my point was
my point was that ErikaKalkbrenner was generalizing that most soviet players are greedy which is false.
He has no evidence of his statement and generalizing all soviet players is wrong no matter what it is about.
I mean why greedy people play soviets?
This question cant be answered because it was a generalizing statement
Hitler also said how all jews are greedy and he was wrong
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yeah lets deal with it
people who play soviets are all greedy
join Germany where non-greedy teamwork chads play.
he?
lol.
i did, and i see that they get actual results. not many of them are complaining about win/lose rate.
i wonder why. uh.
and from my experience on the german side, they work with the team, not lone wolfs in enemy territory just to kill.
they mark tanks, they use the testual chat. and many, many others behaviors that i don’t see on the soviet side.
and i never mentioned that ALL players are greedy. but most of them.
so again, you are not prooving a point.
and no. i’m not german main so…
( i know, kinda ironic due to my name. but, as a tester, i have to test things. i play the game to make it better playing as both side, and no. i do not close my mind on one thing without even watching or try my self the opposition )
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