Why I Don't Think Japan Should Get Tiger

[gastanofrizzi]

@Willcario

its leaked content for the next update

If it is still the old “leaked content” it was the German tiger H1 with a green camo and a photoshopped text code line write like this jap_tiger _N6

[Willcario]

@gastanofrizzi

@Willcario

its leaked content for the next update

If it is the old “leaked content” it was the German tiger H1 with a green camo and a photoshopped text code line writer like this jap_tiger _N6

No, it is legitimately leaked content, I would show you proof if I didn’t risk my post being deleted

[Zarosun]

simple question, hasn’t this already been “leaked” before? I have a feeling of deja vu

[gastanofrizzi]

@Willcario

No, it is legitimately leaked content

Mah… We will see, but most of time those leak are just good fake, never believe until you see it in the patch notes

[Willcario]

@Zarosun

simple question, hasn’t this already been leaked before?

Nah, someone made a “fan made” version with japan camo put on a tiger tank in the mod editor. The test server has leaks showing the Heavy Tank No.6 will be a premium standalone vehicle (like the halloween spike sherman, available to japan tanker 2 squad only) for 2,500 gold

[gastanofrizzi]

It was but as I wrote it was just fake as most of the leak who are posted

[khtk395]

@紫電改 N1K2-J

However, I think the developers are entering a vicious cycle of “arms race”. When one faction gets a good tank, its opposing faction must get a better tank. In the end, the tanks are constantly updated and iterated, and the result is that the infantry suffers and the balance is deformed
This is very obvious in the other three factions
Other problems are often ignored by such an arms race, such as the Soviet AVT-40 still has 5 fewer bullets than the FG42-2
Before getting the Tu2-S, the Soviet air force was as weak as the Japanese Air Force
Similarly, before the United States got the RPzB, the M9 bazooka performed significantly worse than the Panzerfaust 100
Although some problems have been solved, please note that these problems took a long time to finally be solved

So will Japan repeat the same mistakes? Or does it really have time to wait? This is no longer a young game. Will players really spend so much time waiting for developers to finish playing the arms race game before slowly filling in those more acute deficiencies?

How is it an arm race when the tiger is not better than the super pershing?

@紫電改 N1K2-J

So many acute problems cannot be solved by an arms race. Tiger is good, but I hope these more serious problems will be solved first. After that, the developers will find that even without Tiger, the Japanese faction will be a normal functioning faction, and players will not continue to complain.

It is already in the editor of the test server, so this point doesn’t make sense.

[Willcario]

@khtk395

How is it an arm race when the tiger is not better than the super pershing?

People are being mad because Enlisted is not realistic, even though it has never been realistic. It makes just as much sense for Japan to have a Tiger they officially purchased than it is for them to have a paper prototype Ho-Ri tank that was never built

[MR_87]

@紫電改 N1K2-J

No, the low-BR Japanese faction still has no air-deployed aircraft in the Pacific, and Japan has no air-deployed attack aircraft in all BR Pacific battlefields

The pacific plane spawning mechanism needs to be modified, instead of letting the player always choose air spawn plane.

@紫電改 N1K2-J

Japan still has no BR5 assault rifles

Yes, but why should.
They already have Type Hei auto.
The situation is the same as when the US only had the M2 Carbine, but Type Hei is even better.
Japan on the other hand has no assault rifles unless they add even more China captured gun in TT

@紫電改 N1K2-J

The Japanese vehicle team is still insufficient, and the loss of vehicles cannot be replenished as quickly as other factions

So limit vehicle spam, not letting everyone can use vehicle spam.

[MR_87]

@Willcario

it has never been realistic

There is a phrase called “the straw that broke the camel’s back”
People’s tolerance is continuous

If the question is “to make up for the lack of BRV tanks in Japan, choose Ho-RI or Tiger” I think that is reasonable and worth discussing, but the current situation is that more BRV armor is not actually what the Japanese faction urgently needs.

[iso_seppo123]

It is in test server editor

[Jayko_Andrew]

People who wants Enlisted to be historically accurate instead of being balanced should quit playing the game tbh. The game is barely accurate pre-merge and Devs decided it would be better to focus on balancing instead of being accurate so that the game lives on. Which brings us to where we are now.

[Willcario]

@Jayko_Andrew

People who wants Enlisted to be historically accurate instead of being balanced should quit playing the game tbh.

I mean, yeah, play enlisted because its fun, don’t play enlisted for its plot

[CaptainSebekel]

Is your entire argument against the Jap Tiger really “but there are other issues”?
Damn, that sucks.

@紫電改 N1K2-J

vicious cycle of “arms race”.

Dunno, Japan already threw the best they could into the race and the best was a wooden tank destroyer. Dont know if the Tiger E is gonna be much more impressive.

@紫電改 N1K2-J

Other problems are often ignored by such an arms race, such as the Soviet AVT-40 still has 5 fewer bullets than the FG42-2

And the FG42 still has no bayonet as far as I know.
But Soviet suffer because clans no on cares about don’t pick them enough in clan wars nobody cares about either.

@紫電改 N1K2-J

the Soviet air force was as weak

+And that is important for the present because?

@紫電改 N1K2-J

Similarly, before the United States got the RPzB, the M9 bazooka performed significantly worse than the Panzerfaust 100

And that is important for the present because?

@紫電改 N1K2-J

So will Japan repeat the same mistakes?

Dunno what the mistake is here to begin with.

@紫電改 N1K2-J

Other Issues

[SzepWaxweiler]

@Willcario

(like the halloween spike sherman, available to japan tanker 2 squad only) for 2,500 gold

damn you sure of the price?

[Stein_Grenadier]

This thread reeks of hypocrisy dressed behind rationalism.

The use of the “there are bigger problems to address” argument only works if it takes away from development time, and explores some option that is novel, experimental and/or risky.

One can have fixes as well as additional content. They are not mutually exclusive.

[SzepWaxweiler]

MP-40s were not bought but were gifted from Germany to Japanese embassy & beside MP-40 it also was gifted SVTs .
Japan also bought a Panther D (Never reached ) and also PZ III and IVs(reached mainland Japan)
also (Not sure) i’ve read somewhere that beside those STG japan also bought Panzerschrecks but like I said not sure have to research more

[Naohmcete]

beautiful!

[Life_burns]

@紫電改 N1K2-J

So many acute problems cannot be solved by an arms race. Tiger is good, but I hope these more serious problems will be solved first

Well there is a lot to be added to Japan I made topic after topic since there is so many interesting things that Japan can receive then a tiger :

Fixing Japanese Faction Full Tech Tree - Suggestions - Enlisted

I have new ideas even now but I’m too lazy to make another Japanese weapon topic since now I have even better ideas

But they added some things but i really hope they focus on planes and small arms a bit and not on tanks…

[Naohmcete]

Japan Mega Thread V2 and All versions of Type Ko, Type Hei, Type Otsu rifles my sweet @Life_burns