Why i am against PPSh nerf

Hello everyone. Here I want to talk about objective things, about the upcoming PPSh nerf and why it is absolutely unnecessary and should not be done.
Yes, the PPSh has a lower dispersion compared to other PPShs and they want to nerf it, but why? It is impossible to hold down from a long distance, because of the rate of fire, the PPSh has the lowest damage among competitors 6.6 and 3.3 at 100 meters, even taking this into account, the accuracy only compensates for this drawback, it is literally airsoft peas. For paratroopers, this is probably the worst gun, since there are not many magazines, and in combination with low damage, this is the worst damage/ammo ratio, I take either pps43 or red, but svt38 is better than all of this. PPSh is the only gun in the upgrade, I can’t even remember what else there is for gold applications or events. That is, this is a nerf of the only pp from the upgrade, you can’t switch to anything else.
From the point of view of the Axis player, the PPSh is not a problem at all, and the bigger problem is the shitty Gever41 and the strong SVT38, and the PPSh nerf is a blow to the wrong place, because in the end there will be nothing left to do but run through 3x9 SVT38 through cuirasses, one-shotting crap. At least 3BR will remain uninfected by the cancerous meta through fighters. At least some reason to play through stormtroopers will be killed.
PPSh is perfectly balanced and is ideal for random, why this unpopular nerf that will cause another branch of hate for the game, the majority of players? And what will we get as a result? Even more dead online and dull games. DO NOT NERF PPSh!

I was asked to move this issue from the Ru forum to yours. Because it is important in preventing injustice towards players for the Soviet side.

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br3 gun competing with Br5 gun.

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Yeah, no.

The PPSH-41 (box) has base recoil values of 23/10 with 60% control modifier. That’s very low recoil, even going by the presented hard stats.

In use, it also has very similar visual recoil compared to the actual bullet movement (some weapons have more or less visual recoil than what the bullets are actually doing bc the recoil design is poopoo in Enlisted). This makes the recoil EXTREMELY easy to control, as you can easily predict where your aim really is at any given time through sustained fire.

This weird inference that the PPSh box has ā€œimpossible to hold downā€ recoil at distance is not only a bad point to make, as a 1000 rounds-per-minute SMG SHOULD have that drawback to balance the insane TTK it has at close range, but it’s also an incorrect one.

PPSh box is VERY easy to control, at any range. I regularly beam players from 100m out with it. If you have problems controlling it, that’s on you. Pure Skill Issue.

The delusion of that statement is laughable. The community, at large, has been calling the weapon broken and asking for nerfs for a long time now. Soviet mains like yourself who want to keep spamming them are the ONLY people who don’t see the problem.

At least you’re right about the SVT-38. Which should ALSO be nerfed.

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Make better jokes

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Take over the baton the British :grin:

ā€œWhy i am against PPSh nerf (fix)ā€

Because:
USSR RenDeyl88

Rest is arbitrary.

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You can wipe your tears with rd 44 and as 44

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In general, for balance, you can lower the rate of fire of the PPS-43.

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Yet again, make better jokes

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It’s not a balance issue.

It’s a fix. Smgs aren’t supposed to have rifle dispersions.

Ppsh41(box) is the ONLY tech tree smg to have such ludicrous dispersion, conveniently ignored by devs since forever.

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Axis Player here! It is. Don’t speak for us axis players when you obviously just want the Soviets to stay overpowered.

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Actually, he really is an Axis player, but something strange is happening to him these days.

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He’s starting to believe

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go back to your echo chamber, the PPSh41 is not comparable to any other BR3 smg from any other faction

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Strong disagree. Instead other weapons should be brought in line with the PPSh dispersion. Recoil can be increased to balance as needed. The last thing we should be arguing for is higher dispersion on weapons. Does no one else notice how the best weapons are always the ones with the lowest dispersion??

Def disagree with this. The reason the SVT is so strong is because it is one of the few semis that doesn’t have the messed up dispersion cone. You can read about it here: Fix Semi-Auto Dispersion Hopefully it will be fixed for the rest of the semis since it was forwarded.

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The question is, what kind of site is this and how true is the information there?

All they need to do is take the dispersion and change it to be more in line with other SMGs the PPSH is a perfecly accurate laser beam rn.

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Or… they take all the other SMGs and make them in line with the PPSh and just increase recoil as needed.

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The question is, what kind of community is this?
I’ve seen complaints about this on the forum (ru and eu) only from fans of playing for Germans or those who play only for them.

Maybe we should give Germany a modified MP-40 with a ROF of 1100 and leave the PPSh alone?

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