yeh, basically russian has better equipment overally
im talking objectively based on stats or practically
PPD level campaign is much lower than MP35, MP35 does have slighly higher damage just by 0.5 while PPD ROF is 50% higher and has more ammo per mag not to mention PPD is 4 star which mean upgrading to 4 star and get around 6.7 damage isnt that hard while MP35 is super hard because it’s a 5 star?, overally MP35 lost miserably
germand dont even have sniper semi-auto, so guess the winner
Except ppd and semi-auto sniper it’s +/- the same.
you score a point here. it’s hard to have a maxed mp35 indeed
ppd is cqb king i would be happy if laser beam effect in full auto were reduce at range (60-100m)
Only time will answer to say if dev team want a balanced game or not…
the best player 
the most annoying for me is the lack of zoom on gw98 sight.
if it is fixed it will be ok
Same for gw 41 reload bug
read this
idk what you mean by this but PPD and semi auto sniper are only owned by russian even if you say both are the same it will still only benefiting russian not german hence the balance still sucks
in the first place PPD is CQC weapon nerfing it’s long range capability wont help moreover moscow map are mostly CQC,
the only way to balance are probably giving german any weapon that is comparable with PPD, PPSh, Svt, Avs, vehicles, etc so german doesnt have any reason to rant about their weapon since in the first place their weapon is balanced rather than nerfing that obviously will only make the gun unsable
you are forgetting one thing the balancing is asymmetrical
germany and the soviet union get different specific equipments
*the russians have more bolt-action (winchester is the king)
Germans have the best anti-tank rifles (the latest fires HEAT grenades)
the russians have very bad lmg except the last one
*the german ones are op in the true sense of the word mg 30 is an assault rifle
*the russian smg are op close range (ppd 40 bias)
*the german ones already from the mp28 are exceptional medium long range
*Russians get semi-auto snipers with a shit scope
*Germans bolt-action snipers with a good scope
*the tanks are equal to the last panzer 3 is equal to the t50 (even if no one uses it)
*for planes while the Russians are more inclined to dogfigth for the Germans stuka op
so the asymmetrical balancing works and in my opinion and the German weapons are much more efficient than the Russian ones this is my opinion
no i wanted to say ppd and svt38 sniper are better.
germans didn’t have equivalent in their armory
the rest of the weaponry is +/- the same
it’s what disturb me ingame with ppd
i hope devs will take a look on its buggy sight one day…
Except the HEAT grenades one is the only (probably… I dont have it yet) decent anti-tank rifle for axis in Moscow. When it comes to anything with more armour than t26/bt-7 I would take soviet AT anytime over its predecessors.
the advantage of the last Soviet is that it is semi-automatic but if I’m not mistaken it has a lower penetration than the previous one the second German anti-tank even if it is not semi-automatic can fire without having to reload the shot every time sure not to get confused with the first Russian that is a real crap
it’s unusable in its current state sadly…
you have to go to very close range to hit the tank.(taking yourself damages)
For very close range det pack is stil the best
“Moscow maps arent that big”.
Sure…
And why?
Cause the Germans dont have a SA sniper rifle with scope which saw decent usage on the front.
At the same time Soviets dont get a launcher like Germany.
Its assymmetrical balance. Play Soviets then.
Lol.
The Selbstlader wasnt even a WW2 but a WW1 gun (played too much BF I guess) and the M35 is a pre-war proto
read this
what launcher? if it anti tank then most of the time PzB are useless, explosive pack are much more reliable and if it Granade launcher on rifle then Russian have those, in the first place comparing balance between sniper rifle with grande launcher is dumb
there’s Literally Baretta M1918 a WW1 weapon, chauchat, and the one with obvious hint PRE-WAR KAR98K or even worse Gewehr G98 a 1898 rifle. though idk if some of these are actually used in the battle or No but still you get the point
again
what are you trying to say?
why are against giving German semi auto sniper rifle?
why are against giving German inaccurate semi auto sniper rifle even tho there’s already tons of inaccuracies in-game?
why are boasting “historically accurate game” even tho it’s already been broken since long ago
why are you prefer broken historically accurate than balanced equipment?
invalid, German doesn’t have semi auto sniper this making them have 2 extra bolt action rifle compared to Russian,
AT rifle are useless doesn’t worth mentioned because explosive pack are far more better, even if you have to then Russian AT rifle are much more better because German tank are potato armor, I tried to kill BT-7 at point blank with PzB-38 and yes it didn’t penetrate until 5th hit in the same spot
ZB ~ Madsen
MG 13 ~ DP
MG 34 ~ DT
Russian has more round/mag but lower fire rate pretty balanced but kinda think Russian win this one, idk how bad Russian MG but I always hate German MG fire rate it’s too fast consume to much ammo unnecessarily
it’s premium doesn’t worth mentioned
still better than an exact copy of previous manual sniper
that shit sucks tbh, doesn’t worth mentioned
at least get MP38 but it still no better than PPD tho
it’s only slightly worse, if kar98k is x8 magnification then Russian scope are x6-7. in the end I won’t use bolt action rifle once I get semi auto rifle, I couldn’t care less about bolt action scope
I don’t have the tank yet I’m but I assume T-50 can penetrate Panzers easier than panzer penetrating T-50 moreover if you have gold order you can instantly get T-50 while German only get C-7 that is kinda bad since it only can drop bomb once or have to grind through 29 level and hundred hours of play time to get end level Pz III
tbh, asymmetrical balance is stupid and shouldn’t be dont because it’ll create some sort of bias if not taking the right stuff like what happened right now. also, personally Russian foot soldier weapon are much more effective
Bolt-action for soldiers and sniper-rifle for sniper are a different wapons for the game
Only because you dont know how use them dont mean they sucks i give you a hint shoot in the mg or driver port
O yes maybe you dont know but german lmg need to fire a burst of shoot not a full auto one ok now you know this you dont waste ammo anymore
I only i just fooled myself into writing as a lot of people use the premium team i meant mg34
except for one thing, bolt-action sniper scopes are more effective at long range than semi-automatic ones
it will suck for you because you want to use it as a ppd without remembering that it is not a ppd
oh i don’t even give a damn if you don’t use it but don’t bother others
You know you make a fuss only for a shit semi auto with a scope i dont understand, the game dont change if they add gewer41 with scope like no change if they dont add it, the dev for moscow actually thinked how balance the things and i have say they have done a good work, now instead of refuse every opinion wo not agree with you,put your soul in peace and create a more useful topic
however both are still bolt action rifle just either with scope or no, btw what do you mean Russia has more bolt action rifle?
I literally tried to hit T-26 ammo rack to blow them up in practice mode but it only blow up on 5th hit at point blank and I also hit the spot where crew of BT-7 sit with PzB 38 at point blank on squad mode and it also didn’t work 🤷
then in the end I just need 1 good throw of TNT to kill it
practically German AT rifle against Russian tank are useless but russian AT rifle against German tank are reliable, you should check the tanks armor then check the AT rifle penetration values it’ll explain a lot
still, German burst always consume more ammo than other MG burst fire
then, you realize it’s an MG right?
I seriously confused by this
bolt action sniper are better for long range, right? but it sucks for close range because having too much zoom for CQC is bad, right? but I has lower fire rate, right?
while semi-auto has lower magnification and more fire rate because it supposed to be close-mid range combat, that’s you fault for not using weapon effectively
both has it own speciality, putting them in the same field for the case just doesn’t make any sense
you know MP28 is used by assaulter, right?
you know assaulter will storm into enemy, right? you there gonna be a lot of enemy, right?
you know a lot enemy need a lot of ammo to kill, right?
you know PPD is much better for the job, right?
you know MP28 is worse than MP38, right?
you realize MP28 isn’t worth mentioned, weren’t you?
either way both used by assaulter and assaulter job are always the same, both will be used for CQC and PPD is far better than MP28
read this
pre war kar98k and Gewehr 98 will literally replaced by Gewehr 41 scope and something, that’s obviously a change
only because none of them are actually make sense, there’s 0 reason why German should get exact copy of kar98k instead of semi auto sniper just like their enemy (Russian)
you seriously make no sense,
why are against giving German semi auto sniper rifle?
why are against giving German inaccurate semi auto sniper rifle even tho there’s already tons of inaccuracies in-game?
why are boasting “historically accurate game” even tho it’s already been broken since long ago
why are you prefer broken historically accurate than balanced equipment?
why are you so afraid of German getting semi auto sniper?
I just want balanced equipment and there are tons of people against it, wtf is wrong with you guys?
Leave aside the sniper-rifle and granade luncher count with me
Sov
1)M1918
2)mosin 91/30
3)mosin(dragon)
4)carabine1938
5)winchester 1885
Ger
1)gewer33
2)kar98
3)vz24
4)pre war kar98
you should learn to read
this is true but they do more damage than the Russian ones so the fact that they consume more balances perfectly with the higher ammunition of the Soviet lmg
I think you understand that I misspelled, or you want to find a point in your favor at any cost and then when I ever said that it is not an mg there is mg in the name
you don’t make sense in your reasoning reason a sniper has to fight on the front line or has to stand behind to offer support? answer must stay behind to offer support only because the game gives you semi-auto with scopes does not mean that for sniping they are superior
I think you have understood that the 2 weapons have different specifications the ppd is for close combat mp28 and brothers are for medium range and long range just use them to understand that they do not have the firepower needed to beat the ppd in cqc so you have to use them differently or you think that whoever uses them is an idiot and you are a genius
what I read: papa does not give me the toy I want even if I have toys with which I just have to learn to play but I am too stupid to do so and I make excuses about how the game is not historically correct so they have to do what I say so they give me the toy even if it is not needed, why yes
you thought that maybe you are exaggerating for bullshit if all people (are not against you but of different opinion than you) says is not necessary or is useless, no think about it
After this i go to sleep i say you another time put your soul in peace and make useful topic instead of this childish one
Oh Gosh. Beretta M1918 has been produced from 1918 until 40s and saw mass usage by the Axis until 1945. Chauchat saw usage in WW2 too. Way more than “your ramdon rifle” lol.
Nice try.
In CQC yes. Medium range… meh.
Why? You dont have a stupid scoped SA rifle and the Soviets dont have a AT grenade launcher. Sounds fair.
so russian get one extra rifle because gaijin only give them 2 LMG instead of 3, if you dont like it then make suggestion instead of using as argument to justify german dont get semi auto sniper
and you should test it yourself, this game isnt battlefield where you can just hit tank anywhere and it’ll take damage. in this game keep hitting the gun port will only kill the crew that sit behind the gun port and that wont really help. in the end you have no choice beside to move around find where the crew sit or the ammo rack and hit that spot but the problem is german AT rifle are useless it somehow cant penetrate BT7 armor at point blank until 5th hit thus making TNT much more reliable
they dont, all LMG are 12 damage but if you mean DPS then yes
i didnt say that tho
inside a house but also near enemy mob then they would be protected and nearby battleground. and the situation would prefer 4x zoom than 8x zoom
but it is tho, when you miss having a high fire rate semi auto rifle help a lot
like i said
if an assaulter doesnt assault enemy why are you even exist
“huu huuu i cant counter what he said so i will insult his personality, opinion, and completely ignore his question” classic
i had hunch you would say this cant believe it really happen, as far as i remember these the reason why german shouldnt get semi auto sniper
none of them are actually make sense
anyway, cant we back to actual topic intead of talking about irrelevant stuffs?
Listen if you fail to see the assimetrical balance its not my fault or of other 10 user wo say the same my thing i tried but you dont listen if you dont like use bolt action sniper play germany on normandy i think fg42/II is more suited for you
but were they used on moscow, berlin, and normandy? especially beretta i dont think it was used on normandy. in the first place this is game it supposed to be balanced not one sided and use history to justify it
yup but at least it do it’s job if it hit unlike AT rifle especially german AT rifle
in the first place russian dont need one their AT rifle is already good enough to penetrate german potato armor while germand does need one becaseu russian tank are too thick for AT rifle