This is getting pretty ridiculous.
Are we seriously going to use a random video of a youtuber with a replica and then some movie from the 70’s as a reliable source for the rate of fire of weapons produced during WW2?
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And I totally agree with you?
Just bought Lathe, press brake, milling cutter, bench drill & laser cutter to prove my point at enlisted forums.
Best ~100k ever spend, wife wasnt really happy about these new living room furnitures, but wait till she see the old bank fault I was required to purchase to store my full auto gun.
Like ? Sure I guess some murricans have made some memeburgeroid weapons but considering how rare the fnab is I doubt even murricans would go full retard with them.
Make a wild guess.
My contribution was not that serious.
However, the thing is: we don’t have any reliable sources what so ever. This gun is a mystery.
The idea of it having a low RoF (400) seems to stem from one single source, Ian Hogg’s book The Encyclopedia of Infantry Weapons of World War II.
It seems to be a qualified guess more than anything.
I see, so the first is correct.
Well, neither is the post you’re responding to.
I was just pointing out the bizarreness of this whole thread.
All I will say is I can’t way for the day when anything below 800rof is going to be obsolete for a BR2 smg.
Golden days are indeed ahead of us.
if all your evidence is limited to one video, then the developers will do nothing. whether you like it or not. it is not me you need to convince.
I’d like to believe that.
But in that case, why did the developers decide to put the uragan in BR2 when they could have easily put it in BR3?
Is it because there were only two BR2 smg in soviet tech tree, while there is only one smg in BR3?
Ohh, wait…
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dunno havent seen a single uragan video either.
Infact seems to be rather difficult to find any information about it
https://www.imfdb.org/wiki/PPB_Berezina
Same or not ? Seems to state quite bit lower rof than what we have ingame.
You mean like ppsh box ?
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do it like the maretta m38a, a 40 rounder and a 20 rounder
fnab-43 had also 30 round version
WHAAAAAAAAT?! i didnt find that! if possible ill take that
capacita certucce - magazine size, they used same magazines as beretta and in Enlisted we don’t have Beretta with 30 rounds for some reason
this will make germany BRRRRRRRR again!
Because 20round memeretta was more suitable against ppsh41 drum, when it was introduced back in moscow.
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That was the feedback since the merge was first beeing tested and the devs refused to move them up.
So why do you think they would do something like that now?
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I never said I think they’re going to do it.
I only said they should.
I never understood why they didn’t lower the RoF of both PPS in the first place and making them more suitable for Br II.
The lack of low SMGs for Soviets and their reasons for not changing the stats of the PPSs has always been the bane post-merge. The soviet SMGs simply f*cks up everything and is the sole reason for the recent all-growing powercreep in low BR.
It’s never too late to correct things.
Just make the PPS 42 fire at the rate of 500 - (570 fully upgraded)
PPS 43 could become today’s PP2 42 - 600 (690 fully upgraded)
Urugan goes to Br III, making it an intermediate step between PPS 43 and PPSH-41 box, or a side grade to the latter if one insist.
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they could change its fire rate , too ForloN .
I don’t understand where the 750 base RPM came from there is no information on its RPM , there is one article that estimates that Uragan fire rate is between 500 and 600.
The highlighted part
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Dunno, personally i’m not against moving the uragan to BR 3, but extra feedback regarding it would help
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Spot on…we even made posts about this before it started
The initial suggestions were move up or nerf pps…not move everything down
Also 6 months after Merge (roughly) suggested moving it back amongst other things…didnt do well (At the time I was posting too many things)
…which is funny because fast forward a year and the majority of these changes have been made and are now being requested (except reverting SMGS)
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