I see a large mass giving opinions and ideas about both nations that DID A LOT in the war, unfortunately for ITALY there were some bad actions, but in the case of the UNITED KINGDOM, they literally started the war and clashed head on with the NAZIs!
Therefore, they should pay more attention to British and ITALIAN weapons, SOLDIERS and VEHICLES, because even on the fascist side, Italy also had a very effective RESISTANCE force that caused a lot of damage to the enemy!
and the United Kingdom doesn’t need much comment, after all in the famous photo of the leaders of the allies you clearly see CHURCHIL representing the United Kingdom!
so why didn’t they pay attention to these two world powers of that time???
You add random weapons and vehicles and even prototypes, but you don’t enrich the story in the right way, at least try to make a game that is at least minimally historical!
I know there are a lot of players from the USA, Germany and even Japan, as it’s clear from the nicknames hahaha, but there are also a lot of players from the UK and also from Italy, and they would really like to see more of their weapons, soldiers and vehicles represented in this wonderful game!
God I love a good schizo rant.
But yeah lots of us have been long wishing for more flushed out factions, saying that at least we have the nationality option which has been strongly implied to be coming this update.
You will get British jet piloted by Americans and be happy.
But we didn’t get something Italian controlled by the Germans)
Wait a minute…
NEVER!
(My pilot is commonwealth) But an usa squad… such a shame…
I just hope that they will still think of making the promised filter .
No, they started the war by selling out Czechoslovakia to Nazis
Oh really i thought it was Poland that was the first nation that had to fight vs Hitler’s army. But i guess for you Allied fairytale fanatics ww2 started in between of 1940-1944.
But this ignorant opinion is not that strange as Enlisted universe teaches us that Poland does not exist, it’s just a black hole that only manufactured guns for Axis/USSR to grab.
Im pretty sure thats when they “didnt” start it
too busy appeasing
They seem to have a subtle hint about the new factions. Maybe it will be mentioned in the new roadmap. But it’s better not to get one’s hopes up too much.
Let’s not forget the Soviet Army as well as Hitler and Stalin agreed to divide up Poland, until Hitler double crossed Stalin. Although Germany was the first into Poland, I think the Soviets followed a couple weeks later.
because unless you are veteran, they are all from premerge
Well, I guess in some sense they clashed, but they got whooped pretty bad for the first three years of the war. Before the Second Battle of El Alamein and Operation Torch in October/November 1942, the Brits were losing pretty bad on the only open full-scale front to them. (Yes, yes, I know, the Battle of Britain too, but that was purely air forces and not land forces as well).
As for starting the war, the Brits certainly didn’t do that. Germany did. The Invasion of Poland in 1939… remember? Also, as posters before me have mentioned, Britian was very lacking prior to WWII and appeased Germany quite a bit; there was the annexation of the Sudetenland in Czechoslovakia in 1938 and no opposition to German remilitarization in the Rhine in 1936 (a clear violation of the Treaty of Versailles); on top of this, Britain had a very slow rearmament program in the face of Hitler’s mobilization.
References
Invasion of Poland (1939) | Description & Facts | Britannica
North Africa campaigns | Maps, Battles, Combatants, & Significance | Britannica
Operation Torch | World War II, Summary, Map, Significance, & Casualties | Britannica
Why Did Britain & France Appease Hitler? - World History Encyclopedia
However, I am all for some more representation of the Italians and the Brits. I think that they are underrepresented in the game and players should be allowed to choose more freely (whether that be subfactions or something else). But, before you try and use historical evidence to support your post, check your facts and make sure that they’re correct.
The first nation in my opinion that truly FOUGHT against the NAZIS at the BEGINNING of the war was the UK, because POLAND unfortunately didn’t even have the chance to fight, THEY WERE LITERALLY MASSACRED!
I want to say that there was no war fought against Poland, IT WAS A BRUTAL MASSACRE!
As I answered below, I just expressed my point of view and explained it now!
Poland unfortunately did not go to WAR, they did not even have real opportunities to effectively fight back to call it a WAR, they were unfortunately crushed by the BLITZ, and Russia obviously did nothing initially!
So in my opinion, the first to EFFECTIVELY fight against the Nazis were the UK, because neither France nor Poland could handle the Nazis, and quite the opposite if you read the history of the Maginot Line.
Exactly friend, I’m not even saying that it was the Soviets who fought the Nazis first, because at the beginning they were allies of the Nazis against Poland, and as I said and repeat, POLAND didn’t even have a chance to fight, what they received was a MASSACRE, there was no war in Poland, THERE WAS A MASSACRE!
I don’t want to get into a verbal fencing match, but I disagree. There are numerous Polish victories when they were invaded, but they were no match for the combined German and Soviet forces. There is no disputing the fact that the Soviets did nothing at the start of the war; heck, they were allied with the Nazis!
Don’t believe me about the Poles? Here, check this out: The Invasion of Poland.
I think this source (and there are others if you do a quick google search) highlights the fact that it was not just a massacre; I mean, over 80 tanks captured in one battle? Sure sounds like a massacre to me…
Okay, I guess it could be viewed that way, except for the fact that around the time the Brits had their first successes in North Africa (Oct./Nov. 1942 with the help of the American forces), the Soviets held back the German attackers in Stalingrad at almost the same time. Prior to this, the Germans had just been able to steamroll everyone in their path due to weak militaries. I really don’t think that the evidence shows that Britain was the first to successfully and effectively fight against the Germans.
Russians will say they liberated us. It was such a nice “liberation” that they started murdering us at mass. Katyn massacre was the best example of their “liberation” and then enslaving us for 40+ years (thank you American and British traitors). We even recently had a President candidate that agreed with that “liberation” narrative.
Yup, and not only that. One of the worst stories about those monsters I ever heard was when two nuns got to a doctor in need of having an abortion, they were dismissed by him because he was too busy stitching damaged genitals of newborn babies. Well, the soviets paid a visit to maternity hospital prior to that.
May they all rot in hell.