I am getting to the point where i delete the game due to teammates losing the game on purpose. I have lost so many games in which i see teammates just camping in buildings across from the objective and when the enemy has barely tickets left they still refuse to move out of there buildings. so i lose the game and i see 2/3 people just watching from there building why in the world is there so much camping on this game. i have days where i mabye get 2/3 wins out of 20 games and its only camping camping ruins it everytime. If u camp u lose. i still dont get it why camp ur playing against 50% bots? ur legit playing against an ai so stupid if it were a person it would have a mental age of a 5 year old.
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then how without 2/3 campers in the team i do get wins? and no its not me top 2 9/10 times
They play cod, so camping is in their mentality
its because there probably from call of duty.
They have no idea what the get on the point concept is.
It happens sometimes.
A lot of times I think theyāre of the opinion theyāre helping by suppressing the enemy. One or two teammates doing that can be helpful but when the whole team does it, yeah, itās bad.
Try using chat and be encouraging and not pushy. I tend to say stuff like āWhiskey and Loose women a the objective and Iāve got em all to myselfā or something like that. As soon as they see the obj is capping they sometimes get the picture that itās safe to go in.
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2/3 wins out of 20 games is not because of campaign, because it should affect all teams more or less equally.
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Some people donāt like running around like a madman and prefer a different playstyle.
depends on current objective, but when you are attacker side then most of team gonna need to go for objectives or at least trying, otherwise what is the point then.
Screenshot - 257887b1aab0a2d7456c3084e40856da - Gyazo like whats this 2 guys sat on the water tower all game did not move 1 inch and when they came down from the water tower they sat behind the objective. the game is becoming more and more unplayable for me i have 40% win rate on most axis campaigns and allied is getting lower and lower too. if people camp u lose period. u cant camp anywhere aside from the objective
You must be extremely unlucky to get ONLY camping teammates OR do something wrong if in every axis matches you loseā¦ Iām winning 80% of the time as axis in TUNISIA and itās probably the least liked faction of them allā¦ Iām also just average as a player, those who met me can testify. I still succeed because I use what the game offers at the right time, thought, like:
- smoke barrage. My ātrademarkā move. Your team struggles taking on that well defended bunker? Cover itās advance with smoke. You will sacrifice maybe 4 or 5 kills youād get doing the easy move arty strike, but victory will earn you more xp. Bonus; your team will love you.
- rally points! Iā¦ donāt need to explain this one.
- AT guns! Most of the time, annoying tankers donāt expect them.
- flanking! Itās impressive how FEW players use another route that a straight lineā¦
And many more I donāt list. Many moves can be used with vehicles as well.
Experiment!
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It isnāt even 50%. The lowest it can get is 66% with the sniper and radio squads. The highest bot percentage being 88% with a full rifleman squad. This may actually be one of the reasons why people camp and do other things indicative of a bad player.
Then there are also map and game mode design issues, only made worse by matches almost always being extremely one-sided. Some players respond to that by just quitting, some ignore the team / objective and hunker down to not be humiliated further.
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Camping isnāt new. Is always the most common behavior in all games. Always has been when it has a largely casual audience.
Some games like Enlisted, warthunder and world of warships make the camping seem more apparent because of how quickly a team gets punished for not playing the objective
I believe that a lot of people donāt care about winning and just want to play the game their way. The classic gaming Sniper comes to mind, feeling untouchable if he just camps far enough back and killing someone every once in a while. Other people perhaps just hate dying and thus āplay it safeā from behind their frontlines. Others just want to fly despite fighting for a city point and so on and onā¦
All of them have in common that they are more of a burden then actual help. But since so many just quit anyway after some time in the match I feel like those illogical players are only the second worst that could happen to you if you hope for support while fighting at the objective.
I think camping happens for a myriad of reasons.
Other games teach you to preserve your life, and that each life matters greatly. And although they do to a degree, in this game it is about mostly sacrifice.
Iāll send squads to a point to draw fire, and reveal where enemy troops are hiding.
Iāll throw squads at a tank and willingly sacrifice them all to knock it out
Deaths dont matter to me. The objective is what matters.
On the other turn of thr coin, you do need a bit of strategic camping to potentially hold a point.
Key buildings looking over objectives if held correctly can prevent a superior team from winning the point.
Most players who play hardly come to the forums or watch videos of gameplay.
They come to enlisted with too many pre conceived notions, like K/D ratio and such.
One can only hope that people eventually learn and evolve.
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Also, most of the time, doing well ācampingā will net you a lot more points than smashing the other team and winning quickly. And itās actually more fun.
To each their own kind of fun I guess.
Annoying, yes, sometimes. When as an attacker our tickets are gone and I watch the rest of the remaining players, they just donāt give a Fuck.
They are as far away from The objective as possible, shooting the air, sometimes.
But some seem to have fun that way.
Some are just the sniper dude.
Itās insane to clear buildings to take them in real life. Maybe some are scared in game.
Imagine back with 10 or 13 playing counterstrike we were the same.
Campers are the poison of the game. (stupid plane doing nothing, brainless tank camping at home with nobody rushing the point, fixing snipers wasting time in buildings)
This is the only comment that I can say after being end game in most of the campaigns and achieving 89% win rate.
As attackers some attackers could get away from camping as long as the assaulting team manage to make a breakthrough on the objective but as defenders, execute Order no.227 and hold the objective.
Goebbels Villa with noob Soviet players camping inside that building is one of the worst offenders ever with so many tryhard Vasily Zaytsyev there which is why rally points are very important to get the cap and force them out of the building as the next cap is moved much farther from the building.
Took me awkwardly long to get this utility fletcher into my gameplay, but now I have it is such a great tool. Especially on maps like DDay or any open crossings.
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Everybody hates those campers who think they are vasily, but meh. Nothing you can do.
I just quit if thereās no one building rally points except me. It shows how dumb your team is and how hard you will suffer in next 20 mins.
Depends on the mode but I think a lot of it is gamers adapting to everyone doesnāt get a semi auto. A lot of other WW2 games pretend everyone was mostly using semi autos or assaults rifles and make rare guns the main stream. I think the other thing, even for myself, is I assume a lot of us are WT players and havenāt played a FPS in awhile PLUS the game doesnāt handle like BF or COD, intentionally due to the more realistic perk system, so until youāre really ranked up running in and going all Rambo is much harder in this game.
In other words the days of one man running in and killing everyone purely with a gun is pretty rare in this and itās almost impossible to pull off.
BUT what they could do is steal some BF ideas and have a ticking score for being in the objective as the attacker or defender