Why AVS-36?

Title says enough.
Well, i do not think that the developers did well with the last update.
Why not to give all bolt-action rifles, even the low-level ones (M1903 Springfield, M1907 Mosin, Gewehr 33/40, Kar98k in some campaigns and so on), 100% oneshot, so high-level bolt-actions (Mosin-Nagant 1891/30, Kar98k, Vz.24, especially M1895 Winchester and so on) are useless, let alone the semi-auto? Nah, bad idea.
Increase weapons’ visual recoil, so its impossible to aim? Nah, bad idea.
Well… We\ve seen a lot, havent we? (sarcasm).
But what about making one fraction’s weapons worse, increasing SMG’s recoil, making that strange horisontal recoil to the right, decreasing damage, breaking semi-autos, once again increasing visual recoil and the actual recoil, so the weapon becomes really bad, especially if we compare it with the other side’s weapons, while leaving 'em unchanged? That’s a good idea, isn’t it? Nope.
Sooo, let’s speak about the last moment…
Just guess, what I’m talking about!
Battle of Moscau.
A long time ago, Moscow balance was consisting of just one thing: soviets killing bots.
Before this update, the balance was saying: “Well, this battle is “fair” 10vs10? I DON’T CARE! PPSh-41, AVS-36? Nagant M1895? ROKS-3? You must be kidding me, i don’t care lol”. Germans have Kiraly 39M, which is just perfect with ROF (just enough, not more or less than you need), accuracy and damage (3 bullets are always enough to kill anynone), MKb 42(H) which is a perfect weapon on medium distances. Oh, almost forgot - germans acquire more reinforcements for capturing the objective, and they capture those objectives waaaay faster, while the soviets are slower than… uhhh… nevermind. It means, that soviets had worse weapons (though their tanks were undestroyable by other tanks), and they ALSO capture objectives waaay slower. Looks funny… (#отключитегазенваген! just a meme from russian section)
But, soviets had… THE AVS-36. The hero they needed, but AVT-40 is better anyways. We have what we have… I mean, we can even forgive this gun a lot of bad hit registrations (when you shoot at the enemy, but he doesn’t take any damage), bad accuracy, it had very good ROF and, the most important, recoil. And now…
HAVE YOU SEEN IT?!
AVT-40 and AVS-36 have almost the same recoil (AVS has 1 more vertical, but less 7 horisontal), but AVS somehow has much more noticeable horisontal recoil to the right (let alone the Sniper one, for some reason it has more vertical recoil), while the AVT-40 is still OK.

As a conclusion, I say: Battle of Moscow is now completely broken.

Minimum: give us back the old AVS-36. WHAT’VE YOU DONE TO MY BABY?!?!
It would be better to: give us back the old AVS-36, change MKb 42(H) to Sniper automatical ZH-29.
It would be very nice to: give us back the old AVS-36, change MKb 42(H) to Sniper automatical ZH-29, give the Allies AVT-40 and the Axis automatical ZH-29. Or trophied AVT/AVS, as an option.

It it English translation of this topic: Почему АВС-36?

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Lol.

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Seriously don’t need anything else than this gif.

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Going mad for a gun wo cant be used in auto past the point blank… i dont have word for describe the cringe

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The only problem I see with this update is the visual recoil increase, using the sten gives me a headache and it just looks like the soldiers are limp wristing the guns.

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hmmm…
why MKb can be used in auto past the point blank?
:thinking:

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yep, the main problem now is AVS-36’s visual recoil.
i just suggested some additional things

(but axis’s weapons’ recoil wasn’t increased, for some reason… except FG)

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I used it just yesterday.

Did massacres. Ended 1st in all my matches.

Were they able to dump mag at range before? Still works great.

Just hilarious to see one sided mains whining that their crutch isn’t as op as before.

AVS still is great. Still only sf in Moscow, Soviets are still great.

Maybe they miss pve :thinking:

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man.
did you play North America?
There are no germans, lol
Try playing Eastern Europe.
They’ll give you a bad time, using Kiraly and MKb.

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Since my work schedule is… garbage…
My playing schedule varies greatly.

I play in all time zones.

Soviets are fine, saying they suffer is just hilarious.

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Soviet main here, I have to ask…

Why are you trying to use the AVS on auto? Come on, that’s on you dude

So fine, that i played more than 500+ matches with full campain and cant reach 80% winrate, but on axis I have 80%+ wirate very easy
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Well, i say, that soviets suffer when the battle is 10vs10, i know that soviets sometimes kick bots (i have been playing since OBT started), but now there are a lot of angry chinese germans.
maybe, you’re just lucky with… y’know… time zone?

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because it has the auto mode?
just try using -40% vertical recoil perk, right before update it was really cool, man

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Again, that’s on you, want an auto gun, use the freaking SMGs, AVS is a semi auto with a useless fire mode selector, try it on semi, it will surprise you.

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Time zoneS… my work really sucks… :expressionless:

Soviet equipment is still exellent. If anything it’s a bit more balanced now, I DO find a bit better german players in Moscow, which is a breath of fresh air.

But fear not, mkb and Kiraly also now have more recoil.

Kiraly is good. But Soviet smgs also are, so no problem here.

Sniper mkb is still amazing.
But Soviets have the only sf rifle in the campaign.

And so on.

Soviets don’t suffer. Their opponents are just not bots as often as before.

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Kiraly is MUCH better

I try it, it is shit
Early i play on AVS only full auto, and it was beautiful, but someone want to destroy animation of recoil.
It was bad animation on FG, AVS and some american guns
FG42 hotfix
American guns hotfix
Avs… nothing

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misstyped -_-

wher [insert that monke jpeg]

Ah yes, Sniper PPSh-41 with more than 1.2 dmg on 50meters

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The same way I blame on germans players trying to face my PPSh in close quarters instead of using their SMGs from a longer distance using their superior damage and control I blame anyone who is trying to use AVS as an auto, is on fucking you, skill issue

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Oh boy.

I see, it’s not that you feel AVS is broken. You are one of those who enjoyed full auto spam and are upset your crutch isn’t AS powerful (but still is) enough…

Yeah I’m done here.

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AVS now it bad gun, i’ll play with mosin better then with THIS

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