Who asked for these?

Honestly, I dont really understand half the stuff we will get with this major update.

I get the jets.
Many people wanted to see them in the game, most of those didnt want a post war jet though but beggers cant be choosers it seems.
I also find it weird that all factions get captured/lend-leased German AT weapons for high BR, Japanese and Soviet high BR AT guns are lend-leased but instead of a lend-leased Gloster Meteor jet, Soviets got their own post war thing, why?

they just copy pasted the Fedorov rifle from the new year´s event, didnt they?

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Soviets needed a BR2 rifle, but this is just lazy, its almost the same gun.

As if Germany needed another BR5 machine gun.

another BR2 Soviet SMG… Why add a fourth SMG to the same BR when Soviets only have 1 SMG on BR1, 1 SMG on BR3 and 1 on BR4? This doesn´t make sense unless we are going get BR changes too.

All three newly added weapons seem excessively powercreep too, but I hope to be proven wrong with the update.

but just so I can say something positive about this update:

this one is actually cool

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I mean soviet have 2 so why cant German am i right? :upside_down_face:

no but seriously tho i like it (at least from the description of it)

Germany already had two (MG15 and MG42 (100)).
Meanwhile Japan has only one and US has only one, but whatever.

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I think we should have got the mg 34 belt fed for br5 and the mg81 with 200rd belt for a event.

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im talking about 100 round mg to be specific but it my fault that i didnt put it there

Oh that makes sense, though in that case, Japan doesnt even have a proper 100 round MG since Type 100 MG is dual 50 round.

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I remember someone suggested 5 round fedorov and many people agreed with him, I don’t remember if it was Russian or English forum.

yes we do but MG 81 ain’t the one we needed
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While Germany only has dogshit smgs at br2 unless you pay them $$$ for stolen pps-43 premium or mas-38 (which is still worse than Soviet smgs) it’s a good joke by dark-gaijin-slow

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The interwar Tokarev mosin would have made more sense and would have been more unique too, but Darkflow was too lazy to make a new.
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Replace the Ofenrohr in the US tech tree with the M20 Super Bazooka. Then replace the Ofenrohr in the Japanese tech tree with a captured M20 Super Bazooka. (It doesn’t matter anymore if the M20 is post war, we are getting a post war Soviet Jet). If the Soviet Jet is being added for balancing reasons against the German Jets, then the M20 Super Bazooka can be added for balancing reasons as well.

It would make more sense for the Japanese to get a captured US weapon in their tech tree, than get a Ofenrohr that they may have bought a handful of (I don’t even know if they got any).

Uptier the PPS-43 into BR 3, so this new Soviet SMG will actually be picked to be used by players in BR 2. As for the Federov, I don’t really care about it being added. But I’m pretty sure there were a few versions of experimental Semi-Automatic Mosin Nagant made that could add more variety instead of another Federov.

Edit : One was already posted in the thread.

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If you visited the Russian forum, you would know that the Soviets on the Russian forum have been whining for a semi-automatic rifle on the 2br for a very long time and have been waiting for it for a year, even a little more. All soviets on russian forum are very happy now.

Why not, in addition, with such a high rate of fire it will destroy all living things from the bipod or at point-blank range, for some reason it seems to me that on urban maps points in buildings with it will be very convenient to clean them

I agree, I don’t quite understand the meaning of such a submachine gun in the USSR, besides it’s another PPS reskin, it will be played in the same way. USSR players will be like “Give us a submachine gun for 2bp with moderate rate of fire and good damage like MP-40”, and Darkflow will be like “No, we will give you another rapid-fire submachine gun with so-so damage, which will be played as a PPS reskin most likely”.

Yeah, that thing looks cool

We both know that PPS-42 is the best smg at BR2 and PPS-43 is just worse due increased recoil and dispersion. PPS-42 should get nerfed hard it makes all guns obsolete. And germany should finally get some equivalent to PPS-42 and PPS-43 in a TT at BR2 why do we need to wait till BR3 to receive similar guns?

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I haven’t played Soviets in forever so I honestly don’t remember which has better stats, I just assume the PPS-43 must have better stats since its supposed to be an upgrade to the PPS-42 in game. (In reality probably just a cheaper to make version).

If PPS-42 has better stats in game then the stats should be swapped with the PPS-43 because it makes no sense for an “upgrade” to have worst stats than the weapon it is supposed to be an “upgrade” of.

Anyway, I suggest the PPS-43 performing better than the PPS-42 and the PPS-43 then being placed into BR 3.

Fedorov rifle 1912 BR2 5 round and clip reload is not bad :thinking:

except it doesn’t

rof is not everything if 30% of your shots are missing due of added recoil, pps-42 should get a nerf, pps-43 get a buff and place it at BR3, German smgs at BR2 should get a buff as they wouldn’t compete with pps-42 even after nerf. And honestly FNAB-43 should get their faster firing version.

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I honestly just remember them both being laser guns and not feeling much different. But anyway yeah, PPS-43 should perform better than the PPS-42 for gameplay purposes (An upgrade should be an actual upgrade), and then placed into BR 3.

I personally suggested a BR2 semi-auto rifle for Soviets before. Im not denying that Soviets needed this rifle, I dislike how little effort DF put into it.

I also think that 15.3 damage is powercreep for a BR2 TT semi-auto rifle, but creep seems to be the new norm for content.

I made a detailed topic about that so Im not repeating it

But in short: there are many other things Axis actually asked for such as BR3 sniper rifle, BR5 Jabo, Italian aircraft and tanks…

Grass is greener syndrome.
Kinda makes me think that Darkflow will change the BR of some SMGs soon.

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You should play some BR2 USSR to see which gun the veterans use, you will find that the best players cycle nothing but assaulters with Pps42s.

They want you to buy
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Just liike they want Ger players to buy:
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if they want some high rof and controllable smgs, in a TT you have none of smgs that are similar to pps-42/43, FNAB-43 should get a rof increase to 600-700.

Shameless deals, but I did fall for all of them so they are doing some thing well…
Anyway even if Darkflow fixed the FNAB-43, they will move it up to BR3 or maybe even BR4.