To all the fly boys (n girls), the BF109 F1 suffered from it if you go over 500, or slightly under, but are there any other planes in EL that also do the same?
Compressibility for non fly boys, is when you fly at speed and your controls make it very difficult to gain any lift (might also be reason some people crash on first run).
Tip: reduce speed until you need it, hard rudder turns or a loop helps, get to 400-440 you can deploy flaps and turn or pull up!
The Ju-87 B-2 sometimes do shit but since it’s just for bombing ground target that’s not a big deal
Ju87 flies a bit funky, but I mean planes that nosedive at speed and very hard to pull up.
F1 definitely has it, but wondering about Soviet planes, premiums as I’m sure there are a few more!
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Compression for non fly boys, is when you fly at speed and your controls make it very difficult to gain any lift
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Whatever you just said is completely wrong, are you talking about compression in an engine?
Caring about plane compression in enlisted from sall things is a first time expirience
I am keeping it simple, compression is a known fact on the BF109 F1, it was much faster than others, essentially it is control surfaces making it much harder to maneuver, I was also if other planes suffer from this, as it might explain all the kamikaze pilots… the BF109E is more maneuverable and slower, see for yourself in game.
I’m sure the p63 Berlin also has control stiffening at speed, was curious and hence created this post.
The reason I ask is it is modelled on game, I thought it was a bug at first, the did research…
An aircraft exceeding a velocity approaching Mach, even though not exceeding the speed of sound, may lose effective control of the elevators on the horizontal tail surfaces. This was referred to as “Compressibility” and occurred, usually, as described above while accelerating in a dive, often exceeding the aircraft’s “Not to Exceed Speed” (Vne) the design’s theoretical speed limit
Reccomend new play see limits on aircraft, on WT wiki changes how you fly…
It’s not “compression” that makes control surfaces unreliable, it’s when airflow is disrupted.
Disrupted how, all you do is go fast and dive, you can’t pull up, what is being disrupted?
That’s not compression, pressure on the wing decreases as velocity increases, whatever this compression you’re saying here means nothing
I got it from WT wiki and forums, maybe we are wrong, but either way the effect on F1 is very noticeable!
Did you see this:
From website all about bf109
An aircraft exceeding a velocity approaching Mach, even though not exceeding the speed of sound, may lose effective control of the elevators on the horizontal tail surfaces. This was referred to as “Compressibility” and occurred, usually, as described above while accelerating in a dive, often exceeding the aircraft’s “Not to Exceed Speed” (Vne) the design’s theoretical speed limit
This is modelled in game and new players will be nosediving into ground…
When trimmed to fly neutrally in level flight, the 109 resisted being held in a dive and required heavy forward stick pressure to stop it pulling up. On the other hand, if it was trimmed to fly hands-off in the dive an enormous force was needed to pull it out at speeds above 250 mph. There are several recorded instances of Messerschmitts spearing into the ground while trying to follow or avoid British fighters in fast dives.
Yak 1 Moscow also suffers from this, above 500kph, control surfaces stiffen.
This really would explain alot of kamikaze pilots, because when spawning in, if they just dive from spawn, they go too fast to pull up!
After reading warthunder wiki, I know how important it is to know what are the planes limits and to keep that in mind when flying.
On most aircraft I have to bleed off some speed if going in for ground attack run.
I think a better thing for you to research, at least with regard to this phenomenon, is something called transonic airflow.
I just watched this video, which I wish I had known about earlier, and this does an excellent job of showing the different “regimes” of airflow.
Shell Oil “Transonic Flight” - YouTube
The stuff you’re concerned about starts around 11:30, but the whole thing is worth a watch.