You not being able to comprehend arguments does not mean I don’t have arguments. If a book has 80% stuff that is true, but there is no proof of the 20%, you can’t just believe the 20% because the 80% is proven. Can you understand this bit ?
So you do agree that magazine sizes have been falsified before or is this a translation error ?
I have irrefutable proof that my great-grandfather fought in the winter War and there he used an abc with a 20-round magazine.
But this proof is based only on his words.
But the photo is from the other decent source as well as manual. We have a multiple sources here from a very different places. That’s why it’s truth. And you didn’t mentioned anything false in this book yet. You ain’t prove it at all. Just a words
I noticed this too, and I wrote about the fact that the rifle was useless at the time, so its production was curtailed and they started making AVT and SVT
ABC was too structurally complex, therefore, almost immediately after the start of production, they began to look for a replacement for it, building propaganda falsifying documents about weapons that were almost immediately replaced, this is nonsense, for example, there is propaganda around ppsh, in reality it is much less reliable than it is imagined, it did not break, but it clipped regularly
Is that truth? Good, a 4-the prof then. I even got more proof of 25 rounds mag from a veteran memories
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I find war stories to be very interesting, but why no weapon was kept ? not even one of those avs with 20 bullets
I will make sure I speak in a way you understand. The burden of proof lies on you, the guy who wants to shove fake weapons into the game, not for me to disprove. And your proofs are laughable
Ruh-oh… why stop at 25 ? I am sure some guy out there remembers a 50 bullet AVS after a few drinks
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Huh indeed accuses encyclopedia, photos, official manual and even memories - that’s a funny guy business
Oh e? Link it here
There were few Soviet weapons preserved because after the war they were massively sent for scrap, leaving only a couple hundred samples in order to distribute them to museums. No one assumed that later someone would want to own such weapons, so they believed that they would not be able to sell them and boldly recycled them.
That’s the main difference between America and the Soviets 
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Link what…a veteran memories like you mentioned before ? Jesus.
That’s my point. Exactly. Even the Soviets preserved a few weapons. But NO weapon at all for AVS 36 with 20 bullets ? not even one ?
So any childish thoughts or some arguments?
Well, they remained in museums in a stripped-down form, in Russia there are much stricter laws regarding weapons than ever before, but the Americans could afford to buy a captured fg 42 or stg 44 purely for fun for the sake of collecting, and so they kept it, and the Soviet gun was not popular, it is also a tool of the ideological enemy, so it was not they bought + almost immediately after the war, the Soviets began to rearm first with self-loading carbines, and then with ak, so there was no point in abc anymore
Of course, there may still be samples of interest in some storage near the Urals, but they won’t just let us look at them.
By interesting samples, I mean those that can still fire, not museum exhibits.
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Interesting stuff. Can you tell me why do you think or if you know why the AVS was not produced anymore early in the war ? And how effective the weapon really was
Once, an enemy boat appeared from Peterhof. He obviously wanted to pin us down, but we fought him off. The German planes were also not allowed to turn around much. We had automatic weapons and anti-tank rifles on our boats. We also fired planes directly from the boats. I went on the “six”. There were eight of us on board: a foreman, an assistant, and the rest were rowers. All are armed with 15-charge Simonov automatic rifles (ABC) and 10-charge SVT. You could say they were armed to the teeth. We sailors loved these rifles, but when I got to Estonia, I saw that the infantrymen were abandoning them for some reason. But it all depended on the command. I have already told you that they wanted to send me to a penal company because I did not lubricate my automatic rifle. After all, if you lubricate the shutter, and some kind of grain of sand gets there, then the shutter does not work. And so, because I ordered my people not to lubricate anyone, they wanted to send me to the penalty area. But on the other hand, our weapons always fired flawlessly, without delay. Nobody’s ever had anything stuck. And it’s the same in winter. If the shutter is lubricated, it does not work. And when you wash it with gasoline, kerosene or turpentine so that there are no liquid solidifying substances in it, it works perfectly. Armor-piercing incendiary bullets with a red-black bullet tip and tracer bullets with a green tip were used for shooting.
Well, they stopped producing it because they started producing something that does the same thing, but it’s cheaper and less labor-intensive to produce, I’m talking about AVT
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Yeah, SVT was more simple to produce - and it was bit cheaper so - then we talk about big numbers - it matters.
But AVS was still in service before 2 september of 1945