When we could see the next major update?

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It only has 120mm of penetration, it only worth br3.

It should be 20 round version instead to balance it with fg42.

Basically no protection and a gun with mediocre penetration. Br2 is more suitable.

It is already at br3. But it should be lower to br2.

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Better the Jagdtiger

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Why not? They all kill way slower then even BR3 SMGs, the litteral only big advantage is damage and damage drop. playing 450~500 RPM 7mm kurz against 800 RPM .30 carbine (hyde), 1200 RPM 7.62 tokarev (ppsh), or 600 RPM 6.5mm arisaka (federov) is not fun at all. These slow firing 7mm kurz guns deserve to be lowered.

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Being weaker than their peers is not a good reason to reduce BR, they are very OP compared to br4 weapons, just compare them to weapons like thomsons in br4, beretta m38(40) or…, higher damage, much lower recoil, bullet accuracy is also much higher, with smgs it is hard to kill enemies at long and medium distances, but assault rifles are very accurate, their only downside is their low fire rate which is an advantage considering the magazine capacity.
And of course about hyde, that thing is just a better thomson, it doesn’t have the necessary accuracy, I wouldn’t even call it an assault rifle.
ppsh is an smg not an assault rifle, SMGs have lower accuracy and damage.
Fedorov has higher damage and a decent fire rate, but in return has high recoil and a smaller magazine (25).

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IS-3 wont help at all.
It has the same 122mm gun as the IS-2 so will have about the same reload speed.

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Yes, I said exactly the same thing, read the rest of my message.

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right, I forgot this

but anyway

I made a good comparison with the Mkb42 which is actually about as strong as BR4 SMGs. Mkb42 got nerfed many times and is now nothing more than a glorified SMG with AR damage.

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mkb42(H) maby, It can also receive a little nerf if needed.
But he even suggested that the STG 45 be transferred to the BR4, which is a very funny suggestion.

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StG45(M) has slightly better dispersion than Mkb42, but with more recoil, longer reload and only 450 rpm instead of 500 rpm which really kills this weapon on BR5.
In fact this gun is so weak that I wouldnt be surprised if Darkflow moved it to BR3, considering that its a premium gun with no real advantage over other TT weapon of BR4 or BR5.

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Oh I’ve never fully checked it, I’ve only picked it up a few times, I’ll have to check it out.

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be my guest, check the stats. (every single AR in the game)

Assault Rifles Damage Reload Timings (s) Statcard Recoil Actual Recoil Moving Spread Increase
Weapon Name Obtained BR 10m 100m Velocity Magazine Reload Alt Reload Rate of Fire Vertical Horizontal Recoil Control Vertical Horizontal Dispersion While Aiming Hipfiring Visual Recoil Recoil Dir ADS Speed Recoil Offset Sprint Factor Weight Additional Info
StG 45(M) Premium V 9.6 7.5 680 30 (+1) 2.6 2.2 450 37 12 0.3 11 4 0.50 0.0 15.0 1.6 0.3 0.7 0.3 100% 4.5 30/90
MKb 35/III Gold Order II 10.0 7.8 695 20 (+1) 2.4 2.0 400 23 11 0.3 7 3 0.46 0.0 6.0 1.6 0.3 0.7 0.3 100% 5.1 20/80
MKb 42(W) Gold Order V 9.6 7.5 680 30 (+1) 2.7 2.2 500 31 13 0.4 12 5 0.42 0.0 6.0 1.3 0.5 0.7 0.5 100% 4.4 30/90
MKB.42(M) Event IV 11.5 9.0 960 20 (+1) 2.6 2.2 720 45 18 0.3 14 5 0.29 0.0 6.0 1.4 0.3 0.7 0.3 100% 4.4 20/80
StG 44 (B) BP/Veteran’s Box V 9.6 7.5 680 30 (+1) 2.6 2.1 650 33 8 0.3 10 2 0.46 0.0 15.0 1.3 0.3 0.7 0.3 100% 4.5 30/90
Horn StG Veteran’s Box V 9.6 7.5 680 30 (+1) 2.86 2.06 500 36 12 0.27 10 3 0.32 0.0 15.0 1.1 0.3 0.7 0.3 100% 4.7 30/90
MKb 42(H) 122000 XP V 9.6 7.5 680 30 2.4 2.0 500 38 10 0.3 11 3 0.53 0.0 6.0 1.6 0.31 0.7 0.3 100% 4.5 30/90
Sniper MKb 42(H) 124000 XP V 9.6 7.5 680 30 2.4 2.0 650 38 10 0.3 11 3 0.20 0.0 15.0 1.6 0.31 0.7 0.3 100% 4.5 30/90
MP 43/1 124000 XP V 9.6 7.5 680 30 (+1) 2.6 1.95 600 35 9 0.3 10 3 0.49 0.0 15.0 1.6 0.3 0.7 0.3 100% 4.5 30/90
StG 44 126000 XP V 9.6 7.5 680 30 (+1) 2.6 2.1 650 33 8 0.3 10 2 0.46 0.0 15.0 1.3 0.3 0.7 0.3 100% 4.5 30/90
Sniper StG 44 126000 XP V 9.6 7.5 680 30 (+1) 2.6 2.1 650 33 8 0.3 10 2 0.19 0.0 15.0 1.6 0.3 0.7 0.3 100% 4.5 30/90
AS-44 Model 4 Premium V 9.6 7.5 720 30 3.0 2.5 660 33 8 0.3 10 2 0.42 0.0 15.0 1.4 0.3 0.7 0.3 100% 6.0 30/90
AT-44 Veteran’s Box V 9.6 7.5 720 30 (+1) 3.1 2.6 550 28 8 0.24 7 2 0.46 0.0 15.0 1.4 0.1 0.7 0.24 100% 4.77 30/90
Fedorov Avtomat 124000 XP V 12.6 9.8 660 25 (+1) 3.0 2.4 600 52 17 0.3 16 5 0.25 0.0 15.0 1.3 0.3 0.7 0.3 100% 4.5 25/100
AS-44 Model 5 126000 XP V 9.6 7.5 720 30 2.7 2.3 660 35 9 0.3 10 3 0.39 0.0 15.0 1.4 0.3 0.7 0.3 100% 6.0 30/90
Hyde M1944 126000 XP V 9.4 7.3 560 30 2.6 2.2 800 38 8 0.3 11 3 0.48 0.0 15.0 1.0 0.31 0.75 0.3 100% 5.1 30/90
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Thanks!
Maybe some of them can be moved to br4, with a little damage nerf, they sacrifice rate of fire for accuracy!

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I mean in technical terms I’m not saying anything against the IS-3 here just its History it was Designated as “Obj 703 and developed in late 1944 to mid 1946” so in technical terms its still ww2 but was hardly used in actual fighting since it was hard to transport and soon name change to IS-3 but it wouldn’t be off if it ever showed up in the future could be something but id say we can live without it for time being.
As in case someone wants to look it up

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