mkb42(H) → BR4

Hello bajtársak and fellow forumdwellers,
The mkb42(H) is not for BR5, though it might theoretically seem that as an assault rifle it should belong in BR5, but the mkb42(H) is severely underpowered compared to other assault rifles.

In fact it is most comparable to the BR4 M21/28 Thompson

Weapon Name Obtained BR 10m 100m Velocity Magazine Reload Alt Reload Rate of Fire Vertical Horizontal Recoil Control Vertical Horizontal Dispersion While Aiming Hipfiring Visual Recoil Recoil Dir ADS Speed Recoil Offset Sprint Factor Weight Additional Info
MKb 42(H) 122000 XP V 9.6 7.5 680 30 2.4 2.0 500 38 10 0.3 11 3 0.53 0.0 6.0 1.6 0.31 0.7 0.3 100% 4.5 30/90
M21/28 Thompson 118000 XP IV 8.2 5.5 265 30 1.5 1.5 810 39 10 0.3 12 3 0.58 0.0 15.0 1.2 0.31 0.75 0.3 100% 4.0 30/90

Both weapons are two hit kill up to 100-120m, not that it matters much as their effective range is limited by dispersion rather than damage.
mkb42(H) has the worst dispersion out of all assault rifles, in fact there are SMGs more accurate than the mkb42(H) such as the M3A1 grease gun.

The 9.6 damage might seem good for BR4, as SMGs do between 6.4-8.2 damage, however mkb42(H) has fire rate of only 500 rpm while these BR4 smgs have 800+ rof so they actually enjoy more DPS than the mkb42(H).
A little comparison with BR4 SMGs:


Though this app is still in progress, it is accurate enough to showcase my point.

The mkb42(H) is only about as strong as BR4 assaulter weapons and thus should be moved from BR5 to BR4.

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Agree,and the BP (MKB 42 W) should as well,since it’s almost the same but with slightly worse recoil

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assault riffle should not be br 4

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MkB 35 at BR2? And besides,the intermediate caliber should not dictate the BR,it is way too slow for BR5,and SMGs at BR4 can keep up because they have good fire rates to match the damage.

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at least give us a reason why you believe that, I explained in detail that mkb42(H) is literally not better than BR4 SMGs.

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Muzzle velocity

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Soviet and Germany only have one TT SMG/AR available in BR4. They do need some weapons as a supplement.

muzzle velocity is literally the only hard fixed value that is 100% based on reality and have nothing to do with balance. BR1 guns such as ppd34 can have more muzzle velocity than a BR5 gun like Thompson M1928A1 50.

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mkb 35 in br 2 and mkb 42w in br 4

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mkb42(M) actually. Its the new Mauser AR we got in winter event.
Ironically its an even stronger gun than the mkb42(H).

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Obviously it’s about balance.
High muzzle velocity = No need to calculate lead time = Faster aiming
The Thompson M1928A1 50 is in BR5 because it is better than the Thompson M21/28, not any Soviet submachine gun.

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than why could BR1 guns have higher muzzle velocity than BR5 guns?
Im not saying that it doesnt effect the gun play, but out of all of the stats a weapon can have, muzzle velocity is the last the factor that matters and the fact that we are arguing about mkb42(H) being better because its bullets fly faster really shows how equal it is to M21/28 Thompson.

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If you don’t consider the Beretta M38 40 is terrible at BR4.
Yeh, MKB42(H) is better, compared to Beretta M38 40. This gives MKB basis for being in BR5.

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I tried it and i honestly prefer it even over stg. It has only 20 rounds but still very good

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My rating is: BR4.5
It can be BR4 after we get +/-0BR

At the very least this one.

Otherwise it’s straight up useless GO spent when you have STGs.

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Beretta 38 being trash only gives mkb42(H) more right to be on BR4. Since I already proved that mkb42(H) is as strong as BR4 SMGs.

mkb42(W) at least has decent AR dispersion and according to wikipedia had 600 rpm instead of 500 rpm we have in game, plus bayonet could be added so in theory it could be buffed up for BR5 a little…
I still doubt it would be used on BR5 but neither would be fair on BR4 with bayonet and 600 rpm.

I mean I can see how tech tree Mkb can disturb the balance on BR4 as people could run 3 assault squads with MKBs and absolutely bully BR3.

But just 1-4 GO MKBs wouldn’t be a deal breaker, though at least that GO Mkb i bought years ago would become not useless now.

Assault rifles limited to 9 soldiers and 18 weapons a squad

Smgs are limited to a 4-5 soldi rs and 8-10 guns

It’s supposed to be parity of squads not parity of weapons, a rifleman squad is equal to an assaulter squad.