BR 1 should fight… BR 1. (which is currently the case)
BR 2 should fight BR 2
BR 3 should fight BR 3
BR 4 - BR 4
and BR 5- BR 5.
Uptiers and downtiers ruined war thunder. Dont let them ruin enlisted.
Fix it.
It’s that simple.
Darkflow: JUST… DO IT!
This is sole reason I “DON’T” play level three Allies much anymore, even though it was my favorite faction and level to play. But when I do decide to play Allies at level three and get the Japanese I will scan my peepers on the kill chart scrolling on the right and when I see my first level five weapon, I desert. DF might want to consider that this is one of the reasons that they don’t have enough players between Allies and Japanese. My BAR A2 is competitive at level five, my M1 Garand is not against all the fully auto crap that you face in level five.
The worst thing about it is that I now almost exclusively play Germans or Soviets because of crap like this, and DF needs more players playing Allies and Japanese, not German and Soviets. Some here say “I like the challenge” being uptiered, but I would say the majority don’t. NTM those who want this challenge can merely add one level five weapon and boom, they get their challenge, where those who want to play level three on equal footing “DON"T GET THAT OPTION”.
Thank you for your comment.
Hear! Hear!
I also find it rather hilarious that when I moved from BR III Allies to BR V Allies, so far Ive never had a battle against Japan.
I also thank you for calling out how while the BARA2 is alright, the Garand for instance is not (let alone Lee Enfields).
Like the Owen gun in certain situations still holds its own at BR V. But that doesnt mean all BR II weapons are fine at BR V (not to mention player ability).
Furthermore, as you allude to, hey maybe a player chose BR III precisely because they want to play at BR III? NOT BR V??? (mind blown)
I too swapped to Germans having grown tired of Allies and being constantly stomped.
I love level three allies, against the level 3/4 Germans, but not level 5 Japs. 
You know, I am 60 and have been playing video gams since Pong back in the late 1970’s 
. I have bought and played 'every" Medal of honor, call of duty and Sniper elite (except 5 cuz my system was incompatible).
My suggestion for DF would be to just go 1/1 with allies/japan and create better game opposition bots. So, when there are not enough players just let them be filled with bots, even if that means the entire team. Personally, I would rather play against somewhat competitive Bots then be offered as a sacrificial lamb to some level five cannon fodder match. You can’t tell me that in the year of our Lord 2025 that Dark Force cannot make a better game bot then a game made in the late 1980’s or 1990’s.
That being said, people have been complaining to Dark Force for the past couple of years about this, and nothing from Dark Force other then the “we don’t have enough players” crap. Well, we still don’t have enough players and I’m guessing that number at level three allies is slowly dropping. I have heard from some of my friends that play Japan that they don’t play level three now, just level five. So, DF can pat themselves on the back for killing off level three Allies/Japan. Do they care?
They are indeed level 3 equipment least suitable for fighting against level 5
Most of America’s infantry weapons are terrible
In addition to the M2.T20.1918 series
M1 is too scattered
The Garand has the highest recoil and the second lowest magazine capacity.
The M8, which uses such a bad Garand as its own, is at level 4.
Most submachine guns sacrifice accuracy and rate of fire for high damage
How much value does a submachine gun have when it can only be used as a semi-automatic?
Under the condition that the player’s intelligence is normal
Most weapons except the bolt action rifle have at least ±2 ability.
Only some low-performance aircraft and most tanks need this classification.
Mate, a musket will kill someone just as good as an M16.
There’s footage of an Ottoman cannon from a museum being used in I believe it was the siege of Aleppo in 2014.
BUT that doesn’t mean we go around giving muskets and 17th century cannons to armies fighting enemies with modern assault weapons and tanks.
Sorry but WTF is the point of BRs if people like you think that everyone should just fight everyone.
There is ZERO reason that someone with bolt actions and a couple of crappy semi autos should be put against a whole team of made up prototype assault rifles. ZERO.
Why do you use manual and semi-automatic?
My team is always automated.
The most important point
Don’t always attack from the front
A previous post already mentioned how the Garand is NOT capable at BR V.
I note you have premium squads which is different to a F2P player.
And most importantly, you didnt answer any of my questions.
Please dont waste your time saying ‘skill issue’.
The only skill issue here is a game developer who cant count.
BR III should VS BR III. Full stop. End of story.
I have answered your question
If your eyes don’t see
I can say it again
You can choose not to use manual and semi-automatic
The only ones I don’t have automatic weapons are the anti-tank guys on the trucks.
Every infantryman in the Signal Corps has an automatic pistol
My teams are all activity teams
Newcomers can get it from the box
And the communication team is not a necessary option at the moment.
This is the result of my battle in level 5 environment using this team
BR3 really should only face BR3 or maybe BR4.
Against BR2 you’re pretty overpowered . Against BR5 you’re extremely underpowered.
The current BR system doesn’t work on more than one level.
I’m playing jap on BR 1 and is constantly getting hammered by BR 3 with m1918s, thompsons and people spamming grenades from their rifles everywhere.
This is despite the statements about BR 1 never to meet anything higher than BR 2.
If anything it scares the newbies away.
That’s curious because they did state BR1-2 would be a hard rule
Do you have replays with BR1 facing BR3?
Make sure you don’t have br2/3 armament in any squadron.
i get br 3 in my br1s
Leveling BR1 Japan I face BR2 every single battle, and every 3-5 battles have to deal with BR3 stuff like Churchills and BARs and Thompsons. Either the hard rule was a lie or just doesn’t work right now. It’s fucking ridiculous, hard enough as is deaing with constant BR2 SMG and LMG spam while I have nothing but bolt actions and a bayonet.
Well, it’s my bad.
Turned out that the fight I had in mind had some guys using BR 2 paratroopers, who gets BR 3 weapons when they visit their drop box. So technically not BR 3 I’ve fought against.
ive had numerous games as br 1 facing br 3, so far its only been in Germany as im just min-maxing squads etc
some have been against bots others have been against grenade launchers, even my own team have been using flamethrowers with console icons next to their names, which could be paras? but wouldnt symbol show paras…?
Well, since DF really only screwed the Japs and the Allies when it comes to the soft rule, players of other factions don’t need to worry about being punked two levels for the most part. That being said, can I play somewhat competitively with my level three Allies vs level five Japs? Yes, and no. I can play and be effective with my BAR 1918A2, but am at a disadvantage with my M1 Garand. Can I adapt, yes, but why should I? For the way I like to play (aggressive), the game is going to be far less enjoyable when I am forced to use my Garand against everything fully automatic, so why play the game if there is no enjoyment? I used to just play and be pissed about it, but now, when I see the first level five weapon scrolling down on the right side kill chart, I desert. For me, it’s not worth my time. So, IMOP, level three between Allies and Japanese is dead. It also does not help that the Japs at level three have crap for weapons, so why would they want to play level three.
IMOP, if I load my level three Allies and there are NO level three Japanese matches, just put me against the Germans since it will be a guaranteed 1/1 fight there. The level five Japanese can play against Allies who loaded their level five squads. 
Dark Force has known for a couple years now that most people don’t like this soft rule crap, and they’ve done nothing about it other then tell us they don’t have enough players. Well, how many years has Enlisted been going? If they don’t have enough players now, THEY NEVER WILL!
Well this “BR3 must suffer” nonsence is usually about US 3 serving as cannon fodder for Japan 5, but apparently there are not enough Soviets of BR 4-5 either?
Since my BR3 lineup with PPSh-41 box, SVT-38 and T-34 STZ gets sent to BR5 German slaughter?
Naturally, we lose on the last objective, as our team is full of snipers and tankers with 0 engineering points, even despite my BR3 lineup getting top score.
So my question still stands: when ±1 BR for BR3?
It’s the only BR that gets the +2 BRs uptier bullying treatment right now.
