These weapons are,even at br 2,are kinda pointless,just uncontrollable bullet hoses that dont hit much past 10 feet,rather similar to weapons like a C96 M.712 or yazikov.If we look at the stats,you can have similar weapons that preform plain better.for the german one,the beretta 1918 is much better,1.8 damage higher per shot,an absolutely huge value,has a slightly slower ROF so more controlable and can fire for longer,the recoil values are quite a bit better,and it comes before the obrez.the russian one gets outclassed by the starter weapon,the PPD 34.while the difference isnt as stark between the 2 as the other comparison,it’s still quite notable.this again has more damage,more economical ROF while still having a high TTK,and costs a whole lot less to buy and upgrade.the way they.to make these things less of an overall gimmick,I propose putting them in the pistol slot (kinda like what happened to the arty luger),but keeping the price it is now or maybe increasing it,since they will be the only TT auto pistols.of course,ammo would be more limited then as a primary weapon now,but maybe could be used also as a primary for people who want to do that.
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Imo making them “”“”“pistols”“”“” is stupid. Because:
- Making a weapon shorter doesn’t make it a pistol.
- I don’t want the whole wehrmacht to run around with PPSh-PDWs.
- Not every weapon needs to be meta, some can be gimmics used for fun rather than stats.
Just buff them.
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Idk. Shotguns (excluding DB) are sidegrades at least to SMGs.
This weapon is so bad thag even BR2 is too much. There is also no niche, especially since its not historical.
That’s why
Simply make them on pair with other SMGs so they don’t suck.
I really hate the idea of pistol PPSh.
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make them akimbo
problem solved
Gosh I wish the US government understood your statement.
Got to say…I agree. Really dont want a Tech tree smg default choice for a side arm. (rare event automatic pistols are enough)
…On that note I would like pistols to hit a bit harder (especially the revolvers)
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