I was curious why the Jagdpanzer IV is sitting at BR IV. It basically has nearly the same gun as the Pz.IV J/H. I think the PaK 39/L48 has like 2-3mm more penetration than the KwK 40/L48.
What it looses tho is the advantages of having a turret and top mg. Even if he J has a very slow turret I’d still say that is a pretty big advantage over the jagdpanzer.
What it gains is frontal protection I’d say. Even if the armor is thinner it has a better angle and thus a bit more protection. Tho if the Pz. IVs angle their armor they have better protection on the hull. Tho the turret armor is considerably weaker.
The low profile I found most of the time to be a drawback, cause enlisted battlefield are littered with a ton of stuff and you sometimes can’t shoot over all that and have to reposition. It can sometimes be an advantage tho, making you harder to spot, tho that would probably be more relevant on long distance engagements and not the mostly close quarters combat you have in enlisted.
All in all I’d say the Jagdpanzer IV is the weakest axis vehicle on that battlerating and probably is also weaker than some on BR III. It could be a scary opponent for tanks on BR III, but I think not that much more so than the Pz. IVs there and it’s weaker against infantry, due to the lack of a good mg, having no turret and less flank awareness.
Nothing it’s just usual oversight of the DF same as with Panzer IV H that is at BR4 for not damn good reason or Panzerwerfer 42 at BR4 or IS-1 at BR5 or M10 at BR4 or M4A2 76 at BR5.
I do think there is an argument for the Pz IV H to be BR IV. It is a really good tank against infantry even on that BR. Now I don’t think I wold pick it over say the panther, since the panther also can realiably take out any tank thrown against it, but I do think the 4 H might be to dominant on BR III. The G is already really good (or the J if you prefer a little better gun and a top mg over having turret traversal speed).
Yes, but there would also be no reason to take any other tank than the 4 H if it were BR III. Atm there’s at least the choice between the G and the J, which are somewhat equal imo.
Tho the reload time on the 4 H is really nice compared to other tanks on its BR.
Basically at BR3, there is not a single allied tank (US or USSR) able go through the front armor of that tank, let alone BR 2 tanks it would regularly face if it was at BR 3.
This tank would be too good at BR 3, and even though its not good enough for BR 4.
7.5 cm KwK 40 L/48 on a Panzer IV Ausf. H
Rate of fire 10–15 round per minute
Muzzle velocity 750 m/s (2,500 ft/s)
Maximum firing range 7,700 m (8,400 yd)
7.5 cm Pak 39 (L/48) gun
Rate of fire 10–15 round per minute
Muzzle velocity 930 m/s (3,100 ft/s)
Maximum firing range 6,600 m (21,654 ft)
Because warthunder is made of stupid pak30 should be much better then kwk40
There is no Pak 30, its the Pak 39, which is simply a different construction to the KwK 40 in terms of Recoil cylinders and Mounting.
They are the same guns, both use the 75x495mmR casing, both L/48 guns, what you compare is the Pzgr.39 and Pzgr.40, tho even that is wrong, the stats you have are of the L/43 barrle, out of the L/48 barrle with the midwar Propellant its 770m/s for Pzgr.39 and generally for the Pzgr.40 out of L/46 and L/48 990m/s.
The M3 Cannon has no chance of getting through that
The 105-M4 Howritzer can shoot an HE shell under the Jagdpanzer IV from the front, this will go through the bottom armor.
For the Soviets:
With the L-11 I had no luck
The F-34 will get easily through it if you’re unreasonably close. On a longer distance it can get through it too, if you aim right at the side of the front, where luckily the ammo is, exploding the Jagdpanzer IV in one shot.
The ZIS-4M Easily goes through the front armor of the Jagdpanzer IV from my tests.
Aiming on the ground didn’t work there, like it did with the M4 howritzer. Tested the ground one too with the t28 and it didn’t work with that one either. And I don’t think the t28 is mobile enough to be able to aim for the inner tracks.
