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At this point i am sick of it and writing a post, and i know i am screaming into the wind right now but i need to express my toughts.

Back when i started playing enlisted quickly after OBT launched, started playing moscow. It was really immersive, everyone had bolt actions, not good SMGs, not as good tanks, maybe a simple semi-auto.

Now it is completely infested with only AVS36, PPSH, DP27, MG34, MKB metas. Meaning everyone only uses these guns. And it is fucking disgusting at this point joining into a match and everyone running around with prototype type weapons like AVS, MKB whom barely were produced.

There is no cooldown to spawning or equipping many classes of the same type. Only stuff that exists is a squad with PPSH, AVS36, and DB27. Thats it. No one uses bolt actions because they are inferior in every way.

Everybody runs around with vitality meaning you cant 1 - shot them with bolt actions, they bunnyhop like easter bunnys spraying their 71 round mags into new players.

Its not fun for anyone. Myself i dont like using these prototype weapons, i still stick to K98k, M91/30, SVT38s. But now the game has turned into a full auto spam game.

How about you finally nerf the “semi-auto” weapons (FG42, AVS36, AVT40, FG42 II) rather than adding p2w new squads that have the abilities of a engineer II squad and the guns of a gunner squad and hey you get 2 of these squads for each faction for only 48.99 euro.

(This is not an axis suffers post)
But come on, axis semi autos of moscow were already trash, now you have made them worse than the K98?

Maybe buff bolt-actions? Make it so they will fully one shot within 100m. NOT KNOCK. You get shot by a bolt in the chest of head within 100m - you are dead!

Why also the kill cam points out the killers location DIRECTLY? This benefit vets the most since they know the mechanics well, switch to soldiers no problem with great speed and can just prefire where the guy was. And hate to be that guy but 71 round mag, high ROF makes russian SMGs excellent at this.

Suicide bombing is still not fucking fixed after so much time. Oh no no im wrong IT WAS FIXED. They just added it. Back in the day if you died before your bombs exploded - you got no kills, now you get the kills.

Then we got the silver orders “update”. "Its very hard to implement i know 50000k XP - 1 silver order"

It feels like the game is going 1 step forward, 2 steps backwards.

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The ONLY thing I’d nerf would be the ability to Bunny hop and shoot, as it looks ridiculous.

I wouldn’t nerf other weapons, EVEN full auto ones and here’s why: if they do, they’ll have to nerf something else afterwards, and yet again after the next. It won’t end. Instead I’d restore semi autos to their realistic rof values so that they can compete vs avs fg42 etc. Without issues. Remember before the nerf? Ppl preferred the svt over the full auto avs! It meant even low-mid lvl players could compete very well. Full auto rifle spam wasn’t as bad as it is now, too…

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no just no there the most powerful in game right now no more buffs its people like you that we get m1 grand and kar 98 for top teir shit thats copy and paste

kinda sonds like a germany suffers thread yea the semi nerf fucked alot of people now every one uses full atuo

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German semis were nerfed, while the AVS was not and 71 round drum mags, annn…

Oh wait thats wastedwoodsman, almost fell for the bait

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I thought flamethrowers were the best CQC weapon not the SMGs?
What happened? :upside_down_face:

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They still are. I am just worried for the new player. Since most campaigns i now play, most lobbies are half full or empty. I play Europe and eastern european servers too.

Imagine yourself as a new player, you can barely hit a bunnyhopping PPSH or AVS wielding guy (This applies to FG42s too) and if you do hit him he has vitality and hey you die again and again, and then you say fuck it and just leave.

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Those are rare end game weapons, people grinded for those they are meant to be strong otherwise there would be no point in grinding the campaign which is bad for DF.

If you encounter too many players like that in a match just leave, you lose nothing and you save your sanity and time.

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You are correct about rarity of those, wich is why I believe nerfs would not be a good idea (any nerf is a bad idea).

Even in Tunisia it’s not that common to see tommys nowadays, and by then those should be quite common… lots of shower pipes stens however.

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Yea just leave. Kind of makes sense.

Just worried for the new player here. When he is faced by people abusing loopholes theyll stand no chance and eventually the playerbase will just be too small to even support 2 campaign. Rn its too small to support 4

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Nerfing something that breaks the balance of the game is vital.

Whats a shower pipe in tunisia btw? :slight_smile:

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I wonder if playerbase really is that small… or ppl are just low lvl in general. Nowadays we can see a lot of names with lil controllers icons since old gen consoles were added. Bots never have those lil controllers icons… I think? Means there still are bots around but perhaps not as many as we think.

I believe playerbase is just terribly bad or low lvl in general :sweat_smile:

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It only breaks balance NOW SINCE last… nerf. So per definition here what breaks balance are stupid unrealistic nerfs wich bring no plus value and even handicap new players, such as unrealistic semi rof nerf. Auto rifle spam was fine before that and didn’t break balance…

The sten gun :laughing: it’s literally made of old pipes, it’s very cheap. It’s the first smg allies got too… it’s ok thanks to good rof, but thats it.

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Personally, they should nerf the distance of the jumps, the jumps should be in relation to the weapon that you are carrying in hand, as in the “CSGO”, if you have a submachine gun you can take a medium jump, if you carry a machine gun in hand only You can take short jumps, and only with the knife you can take long jumps, they should also increase the dispersion of the bullets when you are in motion.

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Wow this is exactly what I’m feeling about this game.

Those spaming superior weapons with tnt on every squad, grinding their squad brainlessly whole time is not different from suicide CAS

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Claiming that “Any nerf is a bad idea” is an awful lot like saying “Developers never make mistakes”. Sometimes things are released in an overpowered state that is bad for the health of the game. This is an inevitable fact of game design. Imagine if Gaijin added a new weapon that had 150 round mags, did 20 damage per shot, had perfect accuracy, no recoil, 1500 rpm fire rate, and select fire. Oh, and its a rifle type weapon, so everyone can use it. Should that not be nerfed? Pretty sure it should be nerfed.

While that is clearly an utterly bonkers extreme, the point is that nerfs are sometimes the best course of action. In the time before the semi auto nerf, did people ever use bolt actions when they had select fires available?

As for the general topic, the main balance issue from what gameplay I’ve seen with weapons like the FG42 isn’t that they can be full auto, its that when they are in semi auto they still have very low per shot recoil and very high max fire rate. The low per shot recoil on automatic weapons makes sense while those weapons are being used in automatic mode, because otherwise they would be hilariously uncontrolable due to how many rounds are being put out. Retaining that low shot recoil while firing one shot at a time, and keeping the high max fire rate unlike straight semi auto rifles is goofy and should be adjusted so that select fire weapons in semi auto perform comparably to semi autos do, with perhaps a meaningful trade off in accuracy in exchange for their flexibility.

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good post. i wouldn’t nerf the SF rifles because i hate nerfs, rather buff counterplay, but everything else on this is spot on tbh, i use all those rifles myself but what else am i supposed to do at max level? regardless, i would still like to see them at a lower frequency, maybe only have 1 per squad or 2 - 3 in a rifleman squad (would make rifle squads useful beyond detpack spam and thhe current 9 man full auto spam)

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this is weak. even for you.

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This is the inevitable fate of every campaign I’m afraid.

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unlike you im not trying to be mean

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mean? i’d say im pretty above average tbh

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