What happened to the panther?

Hello. A little explanation about Panther A.

We removed it from sale temporarily. The player pointed out to us a serious mistake in camouflage - we used SS symbols illegal in many countries. To protect the community and comply with the laws of many countries, we have removed the machine for rework.

Panther will return in an adapted camouflage.

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I’ll see what you come up with when it returns, but in the meantime I’ll get a refund.

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I understand correctly that you bought this tank, but it’s gone?

No its still there, but its effectively not the product I bought.

You already implemented the Panther A as part of the main progression line, the only reason I bought it because one of your Devs put in a genuine historical vehicle into the shop.

Now that you’ve made it ahistorical, I don’t want it.

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Just add a togle button for people who want some more authenticity like SS symbols on tanks or soldiers uniforms.

For those who dont want to be offended they can turn this stuff off

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I understood you. I think you can write to the support team (save this explanation about historicity) and explain the situation to them. where you want to return the tank.

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This can be done for decals, but not for camouflages. It’s very strange to realize. that the enemy can see your tank differently than you see it by turning on just one checkbox.

Well, it’s technically difficult.

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I dont mean like the camo of the uniform. I dont think german green pea is offensive.

I mean the “electrician” signs on helmets, the swastika on flags, tails of planes

You must start working on historical accuracy, both with weaponry (SFs, ARs that barely saw use or didnt altogether) and uniforms, adding ranks

What i mean is add the option to turn on and off small, barely noticable details

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Well I’m not sure whether that will work given that historicity was one of the reasons it was removed…

I will certainly buy the replacement if its historically accurate, but I do not want the current one if it can’t be restored.

I’ll amend my refund request and see what they do.

About historicity.

We live in a huge world and Enlisted is represented in all countries of this world. Everywhere there are different laws and we try to obey them. Many details of the game do not depend on our decisions and obey the law.

The game is as authentic and historical as possible where it will not harm any of our players. And so it will always be.

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Which countries have the most trouble with this?

I am guessing Russia

Cant you allow people from certain countries to have the symbols, and from others not to

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Before or after the Jumbo?

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Understood, no issues there.

May I recommend a snowflake warning label then for those who take offense at being exposed to said historical content.

I think people here are mad because one person asked to remove that panther and everyone else wanted it to stay,then you guys just removed it the next day without saying a single word.
People in here have any right to be mad as you guys just ignored us.
I understand if you had to remove it for legal reason but atleast you could just explain to us why, before doing it.
It’s not feel very good to see dev doing what they want without respecting the community

I’m sure other can explain much better why we don’t like the censorship in video games.

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@1942786
I will be direct, we users have been asking for months for a more historically accurate contribution to the game and a real improvement in development

this is a summary

  • uniforms with ranks and symbols
  • Uncensored names of NKVD, Penal, SS and historically accurate uniforms for the aforementioned (with a censor/decensor option)
  • more restrictions on automatic weapons and explosives
  • a new progression system for individual nations not for campaigns
  • abolition of campaigns in favor of war theaters, example unite moscow and stalingrad in the barbarossa war theater
  • upgrade vehicles and bring them to war thunder level
  • decide what to do with the gray zone
  • a real improvement on AI
  • fix the soldiers’ movements with a little inertia (this would solve a lot of problems)

there would be others but these are what are most requested, I believe that if the above were taken into consideration and fixed enlisted it would not only become better but would attract more players, who would spend money :wink: what we want to pass every time is a message of change, which not regularly listened every time, we are here to give advice I hope we be heard from today

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I agree with you. It looked bad. I apologize for our actions.
All I can now is to explain the reason for the removal.

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And remove the Jumbo.

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Flank it

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Flanking is offensive against Frenchs.

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