What classifies the gun as AR and what classifies as SF rifle?

? How so?
I’d say it contradicts your point as modern(ish) definition of AR require gun to fire an intermediate round. That’s clearly not the case for fedorov.

So if I understand you correctly, the MP 43 which was identitical to the later STG 44 in all but name should not be treated as an AR but like an SMG? But the stg as an assault rifle?
The only thing that changed for the gun was the propaganda around it.

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Exactly.

It was never a proto-AK at all.

Alternatively, it would even work nicely for the Soviet Assault Engineers squad as a BR2 AR:

Hm?
Reportedly, Fedorov himself originally called his weapon “Rifle-Machine Gun”, and the term “Avtomat” was later coined by Nikolai Filatov, head of Officer’s Rifle School of the Russian Imperial Army.


In any case the answer to this thread is this.

Always has been.

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No need to apologise, google translate is trash when it comes to translating English to Russian or Russian to English so I dont blame you.
But there is no point to argue if we can’t understand eachother’s arguments. So have a nice day comrade.

A fair remark, I forgot about this fact, but I still hold the opinion that the Fedorov machine gun is exactly what the machine gun is, since I have run out of arguments, I argue this by the fact that the fact that the Fedorov machine gun is the first machine gun in principle is not rasterized and if it is transferred to the class of self-loading rifles or machine guns, then reportovi even more topics will appear on the forums with the return of the slot machine to its old place

Hah, I use Yandex translator, there are rumors that it was developed on the basis of all the stolen personal data of users of the popular Yandex browser in Russia, so it translates from English to Russian supposedly more accurately, but as for me, sometimes my knowledge of English obtained from erge is more accurate than what the translator offers :laughing:

P.s. The translator translated the assault rifle as a machine gun again… That’s exactly what I’m complaining about.

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Ah, so that’s what happened :laughing:

Sorry I don’t really get what you mean there even despite speaking Russian myself :smiley:

But in any case here are my thoughts about Fedorov Avtomat in Enlisted:

I say that in the media avtomat Fedorov exactly that avtomat and so far he has raised only a few topics about his class in the game because we are all involved in the topic of people, and for an ordinary person, the avtomat is a Russian synonym for an assault rifle and if the avtomat Fedorov is transferred to the class of automatic rifle , then there will be confusion with the name you can’t remove the word automaton from it because it’s literally called that everywhere (everywhere either the Fedorov machine gun or if the forum where the weapon is described is thematic and dedicated to weapons, then both the machine gun and the automatic rifle are written, one without the other is not mentioned (besides, we already have Fedorov rifles and in fact even automatic ones))

на русском

говорю что в медиа автомат федорова именно что автомат и пока что он поднял лишь несколько тем по поводу его класса в игре т.к. мы тут все вовлеченные в тему люди, а для рядового человека автомат это русский синоним штурмовой винтовки и если автомат федорова перевести в класс автоматических винтовок то возникнет путаница с названием т.к. из него слово автомат не уберешь т.к. он буквально так везде и называется (везде либо автомат федорова или если форум где описывается оружие тематический и посвящен оружие то пишется и автомат и автоматическая винтовка, одно без другого не упоминается (к тому же у нас уже есть винтовки федорова и по сути даже автоматические))

this is too radical a decision for me, but if the developers introduce a separate mode with a historical selection of weapons or near historical, then it’s fine, one machine gun per platoon and then some elite for a lot of revival points, then it’s normal

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Any answer on this?