Weapon Supply Budgets Per Squad?

the devs cant even fix the matching system what makes u think they can do this

Damn, so we’re stuck with catering to literal pay to win?

Also the grenade launchers aren’t as much of a problem as they were before when they first released and when were we capable of equipping every rifleman squad member with MGs?

There really should be a sense of balance in this game than the players asking “What can I abuse after this next update?”

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Frankly, those paying players are helping the game alive along with its development costs so pissing them off because of your idea for more restrictions is not going to be a good idea. Like what’s the point of buying high level equipment, squad slots, premium, etc if you are going to restrict them from using those equipment whether they spent time, money or both on it?

I’m against any restrictions on equipment since many of them already have existing restrictions(e.g. assaulters only, engineer only, etc) and since even the bots were given better guns from one of the recent updates.

There are much more reasonable suggestions like matchmaking balancing teams based on campaign level and rank but the real problem is the playerbase itself where there are people that stack meta factions with meta equipment all the time depending on 1. Which faction and campaign gets the newest, coolest toys after a major update. 2. Cap times and ticket bleed rates constantly being changed instead of based on the actual difficulty of the cap point individually. 3. What stuff to unlock in a faction on a campaign(ex. Normandy Axis having most of the best late war German equipment such as Tigers, STG-44s, etc) where clearly Normandy Axis is one of the most popular factions in the game.

At times, using the best equipment is the only way to win on certain matches such as the enemy team having 4 stacks handicapping the solo player further if such restrictions are introduced since those 4 people can just communicate what squad to use and how to rotate stuff.

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And scaring away the rest of the potential customers and catering to a handful of money whales is the way to go? I’ve purchased a few weapons sure but just because I have money isn’t justifiable for me to have a vast advantage over other players, especially when I can buy and equip meta weapons for every applicable squad member. We have the choice of the devs either putting limits to weapon supply or predictably, they’ll pull out the nerf hammers Ie. FG42/Auto Carbine/AR spammers. The same happened to the MGs and before that the grenade launchers.

I’m not against those weapons but if people think that they’re going to be able to spam these weapons without the devs taking notice they’ve got another thing coming.

It is well known that the player base can hardly support full servers let alone having a matchmaking system be selective of who plays with who, it doesn’t help that players are already split between campaigns too. The matchmaker would just be selecting the same 80 or so people to play with each other repeatedly. Maybe when the game is released on Steam perhaps but it would be redundant right now due to such a small pool of players for a matchmaker to work from.



tl:dr Devs gonna nerf the ARs within the next year unless some type of limiter is put in place for squads. I like how the ARs handle right now and would like to have them stay that way even at cost of availability.

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What potential customers ?
The ones that promise to spend

IF the game is nerfed / buffed according to theyr liking ?

Well they are somewhat reliable money source, unlike the “promises of spending” if the game is done to certain ppl liking.

Cant really think of any premium squad that would be dramatically OP compared to f2p.
Stalingrad as campaign was about to become one, then DF switched it to more F2P appealing.

Probably only clear advantage I can think of is the spare squad slots u can bring in battle with premium.
Aka plane & tank.

CSGO is now what ? 300yrs old ? And still, they every now and then adjust certain weapons aka taking -50% of mag size of AWP recently.
Nerf / Buff isnt exactly something that hasnt ever been done.

Good old moscow, could run those LMG’s like AR’s and enjoy buckets of soviet tears.

Everything “OP” or even broken is spammed. Unfortunately it feels like abusing broken / OP equipment is the only way it ever getting fixed.

I dont have any idea how many daily players this game has, probably no one does. Sure the match searching seems to take more time every now and then.
BUT at the end of day, id gladly wait 5minutes to get 1 game with like minded people playing.
Rather than absolute shitshow we currently get every 10sec - 1min in que.

Dont mind at all.

Yeah cant wait this game getting honest reviews on steam.

Well there aint much they havent nerfed yet. Thats entirely another topic.

On one hand, it would be unfair to those that have already ground out what they have.
On the other hand, it could be made into a sort of matchmaking system. Use Gaijin’s Crossout game for example. Lobbies based on “Power Score”. Set up 3 different tiers, (Low, High, and Unrestricted). This could let players that have less, or choose to play with less, get into more fair lobbies. Unrestricted simply lets you run whatever you wish.

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Why should you get a refund? Game mechanics change as the game evolves and if it has to accommodate every player that’s been playing for years that isn’t happy with the changes, nothing would ever happen.

You bought them and used them to great advantage to gain more experience and weapon orders. You’ve gotten the value from them and you get to keep them, so no need for a refund

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So then why can we sell weapons and soldiers?
After all we’ve gotten the value from them.

And all this weapon balance points threads are always forgetting premium squads, that still would be able to spam full auto guns.
And You can’t just take them away, people paid for it, it would have to be refunded (which will never happen beacuse devs love money), or it would just switch game from f2p to p2w.

You are so wrong i can’t even begin to describe it.
Always shitty suggestions from clueless guys with 0 game desing knowledge.

You want to see more historically accurate squads? More bolt action instead of Full auto spam?
Make threads to give more score/xp for kills with bolt-action. Buff not nerf

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No.

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personally i think this is a terrible idea, but it’s better than kids crying about people able to hold mouse1.

steam reviews are dogshit anyway, can’t trust normies to rate games, it’s all stupid memes and overused jokes anyway

Lol you got me! I disagree with you only because I’m too clueless to see the truth! I’m sure you have decades of game development experience, a true expert

Truth is this shitty idea will never be implemented, i’m just trying to help You understand it’s pointless to advocate for it.

One thing about your idea is how to do with old players. You know, like the fg422 9man squad owners. And what to do with premium squads? like stg45 squad. Cuz if this system got implemented many old players(especially those who “graduated”) will have soo many leftover guns. And it will be a very huge loss to recycle them

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I spent nearly 2000 orders to build my infantry squad, so I’d really hate to see the devs confiscate my full auto rifle and not give me any compensation!

He does have a point though. Are we truly entitled to refunds when we accepted the terms agreement when installing this game stating that this game is in Beta and is subject to changes? There have been lots of changes to the game but I’ve never seen anyone get monetary refunds for them.

This would fall under the Terms of Use agreement 2.5

“2.5. Services may be updated and modified without User’s consent or notification. Services provide at “AS IS” and “AS AVAILABLE” basis and Gaijin does not guarantee meeting User’s needs and expectations unless explicitly and unambiguously stipulated by the Terms and Conditions.”

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I agree, some campaigns now have several premiums of certain types. If someone bought 3 premium assault squads and was then told they could only use 1 or 2 of them at a time they would be furious.

Either that or 3 MG squads. Pissing off those paying people regardless of Terms of Use agreement would mean that people would just significantly reduce or stop buying gold entirely and that is bad for business. Plenty of alternatives like one can have 2 assaulter, 2 flamethrowers, 2 riflemen with full FG42s and 2 MG squads then either 2 tanks, 2 planes or 1 strong tank and 1 CAS where some are even worse in terms of how much powerful they are than just 3 assaulter squads.

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Whats more op?

3 Assaulter squads armed with Beretta M38 (40 rounds)
3 riflemen squads armed with 9 Kar98k with Schiessbecher grenade launcher + large gernade pouch with 3 gernades per soldier and 27 gernades per squad.

If you think the Assaulters are more op your ******* wrong, excuse my ******* French.

7.3. All purchases made through the Services are non-refundable, except as it is required under the applicable law.

Law and terms of use aside.
It would set bad precedent if gold purchased would be not refunded when what you bought is no longer availabe for you to use.

People would think twice before spending any money on this game again.

I understand why it’s in term of use, game is in beta and things willl change.
But selling something and then taking it away completely without refund is not why it was made, nor it should be.

How about just think of way to nerf them or add some counterplay, instead of just removing part of game that people already paid for.