[Weapon] German weapons at Berlin

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Battle of Berlin

Battle of Berlin is Identical for Ending the war at Europe, and Downfall of the reich.

And the German Empire tried to stop the enemy with all its might,
Even by conscripting Boys and Olds under the name of “Volksstrum”,

Also, the Reich produced various weapons to arm “Volksstrum”,
and these weapons were produced from thousands to tens of thousands.

Those Weapons are Identical, and Matches the overall mood of the campaign.

But, In the campaign ingame now, We only have few of these weapons,
and most of weapons are like MP35/I, G43.

Those weapons can be seen also at other campaigns,
Even MP 35/I can be seen at Every campaign now!

What I suggest is to Add, or Replace Weapons(G 43, MP35/I etc.)
to Weapons which is Unique, and fits better with Berlin.

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EMP 44 is one of the weapons which were made
Quickly and for cheap prices at the end of the war.

It was Chambered for 9*19 Parabellum cartridges,
and Could load 2 MAgazines at once, Just like MP 40/I in Game.

It could fire about 500 RPM, and of course, was used in Berlin.

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G 43 DFE is Basically Modified G43,
Which allowed it to loaded 7.92x33 Kruz.

It used the Magazine of StG44, and most of all,
Had an abilty to fire at Full-Auto.

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VolksstrumGewehr MP 507/MP508, also Mistakenly known as VG 1-5,
Is Semi-Auto rifle which could fire 7.92*33 Kruz Cartridges.

For supply reasons, It also used the Magazine of StG 44.

Since MP 507 (VG 1-5) appeared in game before, at Battle of Berlin Alpha test last year,
This could appear in-game much earlier, and would be great replacement of G 43.

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Eintossflammenwerfer 46, is a flamethrower introduced in 1944.
It was a Single-use flamethrower, which could fire Flames for 1.5¬2 seconds.

Despite Only could fire for 1.5-2 seconds, It was widly used by German forces,
For its cheap price and light weight.

It only weight 3,5 Kg, which allowed soldiers to carry amount of them.

Conclusion

These weapons are only a few of Weapons used at berlin,
there is a lot of more Weapons which was used, and also fits the mood of berlin.

I suggest to Add or replace Weapons at Battle of berlin, to The weapons whitch fits more the campaign.

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Totally agreed. As far as I seen on The screens progression in Berlin is just complete copy-paste from other campaogns, at least until 15. level. It would be much better to introduce those “last chance weapons” at the beginning

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I want each campaigns to be unique, with unique weapons and moods, not using same weapons every campaign.

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Exactly. Some will be the same for all the campaigns, like Kar98 or MP40. But there should be as much new stuff as possible, especially with so many interesting options.

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Yes. Those last ditch weapons are most intresting part of weaponry in berlin.

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just to point out, the vg 1-5 is already present :smiley:

immagine

but nontheless, interestring weapons you mentioned up there :smiley:

perhaps add the automatic version? since it was present ( during the real defend of berlin, not in the game ).

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Was there a automatic version of it? Didnt know that!
Gotta find about it.
P.S.

Well ive pointed that out already :wink:

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Strongly agree. To say more, Even there was MG08/15 at Berlin!
Those old time weapons alongside with Prototype small arms would fit berlin perfectly.

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my faully.

when i readed the vg-1 as suggestion, majority of people didn’t now about it’s existance.

mostly because for some reason it’s not present in the current line up. there’s actually less than the CAT.

either way, i just realized that the VG1-5 automatic were only rumors. all of them went lost/scrapped after a few months of the battle of berlin.

so i don’t know how much accountable it can be.

cheers.

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These things would be a great addition to the game! Yet I would not like to see them becoming the “standard”. The divisions of the Heer did not suddenly loose all their equipment and had to replace it with last ditch version. But are Volkssturm units and probably some more will be added. For those k98 Kriegsmodell, Gustloff VG, MP3005 instead of k98, MP40, Stgw.44 would be great.
And would also better fitting there because these last dirch projects were profects by the NSDAP not by the Wehrmacht. Regular units were still fitted with wehrmacht production while the last ditch stuff was explicitly produced to equip the Volkssturm. Doesn’t mean that none of these items had found their way into regular units if nothing else was avaialbe at the time at the place but it would’ve been the exception not the rule.

The EMP is a bit different since this was only a rejected prototype and neither saw action nor was produced beyond some prototypes. It is a 1943 design and at that point it still looked to desperate to be accepted.

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I Mostly agree with you.

Well you know, Most German Early -or pre- unlocked squads In-Game are mostly Volksstrum,
I suggested making early unlocked weapons, like M30 which unlocks at Lv4
and G 43, which unlocks at Lv7, should be replaced with one of those “last-ditch” stuff.

Since it was named EMP 44, I had no idea that it was developed 1943.
Also, I’ve Heard that few EMP 44s had been used in Berlin, by SS units and Volsstrum.

Source of EMP 44: W. Darrin Weaver,
Desperate Measures - The Last-Ditch Weapons of the Nazi Volkssturm

well I hope more Volksstrum squads to be added either

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A last ditch weapon instead of the M30 would actually be a good idea since the M30 is an oddity that if it shall exist can be added to some of the Pilots in addition to the plane. A semi auto carbine at lvl. 4 is also already present with the M1 carbine in the nomandy US tree.
LvL 7 is a bit more difficult since its a regular unit and mirrors atm with the russian campaign. But with the MP3008 we already have the relevant MP for the Volkssturm :slight_smile:

It was already developed by EMRA in '43 not in a sense of a last ditch weapon but simplified production and the use of non vital resources. With the same thought in mind that led from the MP38 to the MP40. It was rejected (by the Wehrmacht!) because it made a too shabby impression with its welded pipe body. In late '44 when last ditch weapons became a thing it was reconsidered and again submitted (Not for the Wehrmacht this time but for the Volkssturm) but did not went into production since ERMA had no free capacities and there was also the MP3005 which was produced by other companies. If it would’ve been a priority project I’m sure capacities could’ve been created but with endless new projects everywhere it was just a mess and no controlled production anymore. The MP3005 had at least production numbers in the low thousands but even for that it’s unshure how much action it saw because a lot of stuff that was produced at that time lay around at the factories and couldn’t be transported to the pleces where it was needed.

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To be fair there are a lot of things like this, the MG42 for example was actually first used something like 9 months before it was officially adopted around mid-late 1941ish
The numbers on German weapons is sometimes really misleading

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Intresting. Since MG42 first introduced at 1941, it would be able to take part at moscow in game I suppose