The worst part is that I’m starting to suspect that people here aren’t joking; they really think it’s okay to translate from a lower rating weapons for variety. It’s terrifying.
The most terrifying part is someone listening this.
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The funny thing is that the Uragan is a guerrilla weapon that has never been mass-produced, and its characteristics are completely variable and can differ from one model to another, meaning that they can be changed almost arbitrarily.
It didn’t stand out much in its br 2 and I rarely use it (chek my replays), but I want to know why and who is responsible for this absurd and pointless translation of a weapon that was never needed.
Repeat - this is a guerrilla weapon, and you can change its rate of fire and anything else you want, because it’s not a standardized and there are no documents about it in nature.
I bring a lot of suggestions about what can be added at the battle rating free, but what we did? of course nerf the weapons.
Excellent work Commander.
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No it means that PPS43 is even without body armor the best BR2 SMG.
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Why no?
Well BR2 Type 100 also would be on the same level now, and Thompson BR2 is also pretty powerful.
Well I still compare all BR2 SMGs with MP40, thats why I think they all vastly overperform
BR2 smg meta powerlevel is not what it used to be. Due to excessive powercreep, which was completely unnecessary.
It’s the only reason we ended up with total overbloat of smgs in BR2.
In no other BR there is such huge power difference between weapons, just compare fnab or M3A1 grease gun to weapons such as Type 100 early or Thompson M1A1
Not a single other BR is overbloated in the way BR2 is. And a drastic rebalance is needed.
Btw. and it’s not just specific to smgs. It’s extremely unhealthy when factions have multiple rifles in BR3. But not even one BR4.
The obsession with reducing BR instead of buffing it is extremely unhealthy.
People just want to farm newbies with overpowered equipment.
But whatever. It’s not like anything is going to fix. Devs are clearly neglecting the game. And no longer has ambition or competency to do anything about it.
It’s really sad. But that’s what it is. Most likely, it’s only going to keep getting worse.
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I mean just comparing the stats here, we can very much see its a BR3
Perhaps it could do with a deviation buff.
This I do agree with, its insane it was ever added to the TT, and for no real reason.
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This is exactly the problem. People forget about all the other smgs available for germany. No other faction gets as much of a variety in BR2 smgs than germany and there are some real bangers.
Germany:
- berretta m38a - 690 RoF (even though it’s a “BR1” gun it performs exceptionally well in BR2 with it’s high fire rate and accuracy)
- berretta m1918/OVP m1918 - 1040 RoF (good at close quarters)
- ppsh 41 obrez - 1150 RoF (good at close quarters)
- Berretta m38/42 - 630 RoF (great all around gun)
- mp 35 - 620 RoF
- mas38 - 810 RoF
- soumi kp26 - 690 RoF
- erma emp with silencer - 630 RoF
- erma emp - 630 RoF (premmy squad)
- mp18 - 690 RoF (really cheap premmy squad that feels quite good now)
- mp-719(r) - 800 RoF (premmy squad)
There’s still half a dozen other br2 smgs, but these ones right here all stand out and perform well. Some may excell in certain areas with drawbacks in others, but they are ALL more than viable. I have heavily used all of these listed with the sole exception of the mp18 because it would be redundant for me to buy the squad at this point. I had/have zero complaints with these in my lineups.
If it was added after all there’s no need to turn it into trash. You can change almost any characteristics arbitrarily, depending on the need-this is almost a unique opportunity that was not used in any way, but it was sent to a place where no one will ever use it for sure
Pprobably part of the community is very happy about this, but I would like to see different types of weapons in this game - a variety. There is no place for a Uragan in the br 3 right now for sure
→ both still shown with 7.2 damage - visual error? Or was the nerf canceled?
→ However Typ 2A shown correctly as BR III
I mean there clearly is, look at the stats, its at least on par with the ZK-383, if not slightly better. And considering that many consider the ZK-383 the best german BR3 SMG, that seems good to me, (I know that is a bit less set in stone with the 40rnd Berretta now but I digress, imo I still prefer the ZK).
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If you read the post there, the damage changes arent coming till the next major update.
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overread that one - however still …
thanks btw
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ZK is very very strong actually I do actually think its better than Uragan, so a dispersion buff seems fair actually, since its BR3 now.
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No German TT gun is as good as PPS43 - the new buffed BR2 Beretta closed the gap by quite some level, but it still has comparatively low rate of fire and overall killing time. I would say higher mag capacity and damage can be a fair comparison to PPS42, but 43 has clearly too high rpm for BR2 and even has slightly better dispersion than PPS42.
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99% of forum creatures, including gaijin itself, dont understand technology, especially not details like model flexibility, factory dependence, field modifications etc.
its simply useless explaining anything here that goes beyond the 5th grade level of “my source says number x, so this is the only truth!” 
edit: in todays video i explained a related issue with the pps43 regarding stamped smg production & barrel quality. basically all parameters of the gun can be flexible changed - within reasonable thresholds - as the production variance was very high.
fun fact: soviet post-war analysis documents described how there were ppsh41 models that broke after 1000 shots, and others that broke after over 50 000 shots. this type of deviation isnt just normal variance, its basically a completely different weapon at that point.
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Tell me about it I explained them the most basic way how type 99 works :
‘’ A gas-operated firearm like the Type 99 light machine gun fires faster on a larger gas port because more gas pressure from the cartridge is directed to cycle the bolt This increased pressure acts on the piston and bolt assembly, driving it rearward faster and stronger, which in turn increases the cycling rate of the weapon and allows it to fire more bullets per minute."
They will understand it after few years
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For variety sake both Type 2 should get the old 7.2 damage of the Type 100.
And not a single one in a TT is as good as PPS-42. You need to whale or be a veteran to own all good smgs of the past (BP and premium)
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Unfortunately Enlisted doesn’t incorporate variation amongst gun copies, so every pps43 will have the same rpm, the same dispersion, the same damage. And that’s because Enlisted is a game. Enlisted uses the stats of the guns which are backed by the most sources.
That’s all well and good, but Enlisted doesn’t account for sloppily made guns or defects, this is because Enlisted is a game and all ppsh41s in Enlisted are built to the same standard.
Oh dear, para division can’t handle reading a source. If the majority of primary sources state a gun had a certain rpm and these sources were correctly carried out, then yes I will cite that souce or sources.
Yes in real life guns stats varied from gun to gun, but Enlisted uses the stats of the guns as if they were made properly. So unfortunately you can’t just make up numbers without citing your sources, sorry.
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