Weapon and vehicle Battle Rating changes!

GREAT is a bit overstated. It HAD great armor when the Soviets were rocking PTRS-41s in BR 2. A bazooka rocket will pen any part, without a problem.

Against other tanks; even a 45mm will pen it easily. It was never OP.

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It is when you’re fighting players with room temperature IQ

when PvP happen you leave the match.

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When I’m playing with a handicap and I know what the spreadsheets say I have no reason to be a punching bag and custom games is much more fun than what slop public matches have turned into.

And when it comes to your position I’d expect better from you and because when it comes to your position you should know what the faults are and know that PvP in this game is a joke.

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:skull_and_crossbones:

Lmao.

It wouldn’t be a Gaijin published game without already extremely powerful soviet equipment getting buffed for absolutely no reason, I guess.

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Hi All, i really dont mind much of the changes…weapons get stronger or weaker… fine.
But some changes are not usefull and totally AWEFULL!

  • BF110 G2 > why ??? it was not strong at BR3 and is now just bad or unplayable at BR4 > i will not play it on BR 4! > give it functional munition for the 37 BK maybe…but at this stage just no!

  • Ju 188 barely playable as Para Bomber in BR4… give us full controll of gunners via a remote gun sight maybe > but at this stage NO > i wont fly it at BR5!!!

  • German Stugs… why at BR4-5 makes NO SENSE… Stug 3s at BR3 and some Jagdpanzers at BR3-4 fine! > Marder Br2-3

→ and now the biggest Elephant in the room > THE JETS > ive testet all of them today and i am a pretty good Pilot >

-Prem Me262 is garbage > gun is meh > rear visiblity is poor > give us the 2 BK30 with rockets > fine
-M262 > solid but suffers from turn rate as historicly expected
-Kika is fine (but a little to less Ammo)
-Su-9 is a little Meh but fine if you consider it was not more than a Frankenstein from captured parts
and tech

and now the OP ones<<<
-Shooting Star turns very good 16sec (too good > give it less Poewer to weight ratio than fine > like real life) > Guns like a Laser i suggest you can beam the enemy to dust at 1km and the 2 Bombs are just OP
-Meteor > is just flat out the best of all the jets > SPITFIRE with 2 Jet engines and 4 20mm cannons…Turn RATE 13sec without upgrades??? really??? than 2 OP 460 KG bombs??? common balance that s…!!! make it turn rate 16.5 or 17 and fine > in that state OP enough

sorry for grammar not my native language :slight_smile:

Speaking of, when was the stupid low dispersion of the box mag PPsH 41 going to be addressed?

Does JP even have a functional BR4 after this?

I turned mine French

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No, but it’s not like the type 4 was particularly good for BR4 to begin with…

Look at the US, their BR4 rifle is the Johnson, that thing is no better than the garand. I would rather have no BR4 rifle than having one BR3 rifle sent to BR4 for the sake of having one there

US is far and away the largest. Though whether or not they’re populated by living humans is hard to say. They certainly don’t behave like it.

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What???

2 somewhat similar BR4 LMGs, that now have Federov MG matching them in BR4…

To be moved separately into BR 3, 4 & 5? For what reason???

Terrible randomness

Did they had one before?

@X_BloodBandit_X is Totally right.

If ur matching power level to PPS42, the gun I actually consider outstanding in BR2, the M38/42 is the absolute GO-TO post patch.

Its as good and in some situations better than 42.

Not with that awful vertical recoil and too low of rof. It’s pretty much a sidegrade to MP40 defenitely not better even than mp40 or especially pps-42.
Dmg is also worse than mp40 despite having same rof so how it’s better?

You asked for soviet mains to find a PPS42 competitor in Axis tree.

Im showing you above that with better dispersion and 1 point worse horizontal recoil + 15% more ammo M38/42 is honestly quite a catch. Really good change to move it to BR2. Its functionally a match to the pps42.

25% more ammo and better dispertion. MP40 is more of a PPS43 competitor for CQB. M38/42 is the longer ranged bretheren to the longer ranged pps42.


Tldr, these weapons match soviet ones in the TT in terms of capabilities and stats with the upcoming changes. Theyre good buffs. Looking at the stat data I consider the smg TT at BR2 between them equalized.

It doesn’t match PPS-42 as it has lower rof, while recoil is also worse despite having better dispersion. It should start with 550 rof and get up to 632 rof when fully upgraded, with small vertical recoil buff it could actually match PPS-42 despite still having a bit slower rof. Then i could agree with you, but right now nope.

This new model, the Model 38/42, had a fluted barrel to aid cooling and save weight. It also had a slower rate of fire (550 rpm).

PPS42 +20% ROF, +1 horizontal recoil (one that matters)
M38/42 +14% ammo, +18% dmg at range, +.06 dispersion.

Yeah you can point out your favorite stats here that you like, but your just picking your bias at this point.

Theyre a near match. Im functionally not sure which one is better. Im going to run the 38/42 post patch exactly like I would the PPS42 in soviet tree.

I mean by the argument the Stuka R-2 is the same.

Also in what world is 6 250kg/6 500lb bombs a small payload, in this game at least.

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