35 rounds is plenty, rof will always win over slower rof, 5 more rounds doesn’t mean it’s worth sacrificing 120 rof
i have no biases there is only soviet bias with overpowered BR2 smgs that Axis is missing out of not for so long. If a 570 rof and 690 rof weapons are the same to you then i guess you need a new glasses.
not the same, but I’d take good DPS over slightly bigger mag but bad DPS every day, especially when those reloads are rather quick.
I think 25 round mags for SMGs are noticeably limiting, even just compared to 30 round mags, but if you are already comparing SMGs that have bigger mags than standard - thats why I think I would still use ZK 383 over Beretta 38A in BR3, simply because ZK has better accuracy and rate of fire… well Beretta actually isnt bad by any means, some players might actually prefer a not too fast rate of fire (same reason why people pick PPS42 over PPS43) but here we are comparing good weapons with good weapons…
if I look at Beretta M38/42 which will now be a BR2 gun, it will basically JUST be a MP40 with 40 rounds instead of 32 rounds, but if you die before being able to empty your mag anyways whats the point? there simply is a certain fire rate “break point” that needs to be reached to compete with other SMGs, if your time to kill is significantly slower than your enemies - then you give the enemy time to react to your fire and kill you even though you shot first.
Mate if you need to rely on 5 more rounds to kill enemy then your gun just sucks. PPS-42 with even less rounds will kill more people quicker than your Beretta that has power of MP40. Nothing going to change for Germany unless they buff it’s rof to number i provided few post ealier.
690-750 rof with low recoil/manageable dispersion is a sweet spot for smgs at BR2 and almost none of German smgs can have that. They either have too low rof of 570 or too high like MAS-38/PPS-43.
If you have Suomi Kp-26 x4 then you are one of a lucky few that can finally achieve that golden ratio of smg stats at BR2. I would gladly trade MAS-38 rof for dmg per bullet and less recoil/less dispersion.
yea, since most SMGs have rather similar accuracy and damage, rate of fire next to magazine size will ultimately be the only really meaningful stat that matters.
I think the devs should reevaluate dispersion for many guns in general
Ofcourse theyre not the same, it would be the same gun in that instance
I dont mean to be harsh, but can you people grow a spine and stop crying so much? Soviets didn’t have a 1k+rpm SMG in BR 1-2 until partisan upgrade, and no one cared.
I think its terrible to ask for 10000000% parity in everything - go play Axis on axis or something.
Same people complain about copy-paste weapons, then complain theyre not copy-paste enough… WHICH ONE IS IT???
I work with whats available. Run PPS42 main with Obrezh for CQB secondary since economy rework,
And now can run M38/42 and M1918 for CQB on Axis side. Problem solved.
Im not going to sit here and cry that this rifle or that doesnt perform the function I want in this exact every circumstance, when like 20 SMGs are lying around the TT waiting to be used…
meh, those SMGs have noticeable bad accuracy, I think most players dont really like those guns - of course as a back up gun it can be cool, but outside of MG gunners being too lazy to reload I think most players use ammo pouches in general over a back up gun.
well, 40 rounder Berettas, MP40, and other BR2 SMGs are simply NOT a fair competitor to PPS, they are pretty much as accurate as the soviet SMGs without anything else going for them.
Top magazine SMGs are… well we all know why they are not used much…
The m38a does though. I think it’s better than the pps as it’s way easier to control and your marks. I see nothing wrong with this gun. There’s also nothing wrong with the 2 top loaded smgs either. They were my primary go to for a long time and even hage significantly higher fire rate. Like you have your counters so stop complaining. If you choose not to use them and make them work then thats on you. There’s also the mp35, mas 38, kp 26. People COULD also just get good with a bolty as it’s the true counter to all other weapons
luftfaust to br3 please?
American bike has MG with 250 rounds. How is it fair to any other nation?
I compared them to engineer gun emplacements which have unlimited ammo. really dont think it matters on motor bikes. you will be lucky to use 50 rounds lol.
thats just my opinion…bikes dont tend to be lethal killing machines
But they don’t ever overheat and it’s so convenient for USA bikes as they have 250 rounds
Well it matters on the Soviet/German/japanese bikes as their ammo capacity is ultra limited and trust me i can easily dump over 50 rounds before dying at BR2 you just need to play on Moscow or Tunisia and find a right spot where you will see enemies at mid range running towards objective. Other campaigns are pretty bad for bikes as they have to many spots that could block your vision or make you crash against something or stuck while driving.
you can do the same thing with a machine gun nest (even more with a Heavy machine gun nest).
If you let them overheat you aren’t trying
Let’s see for how long you will live in your machine gun nest/HMG it’s the same as bikes you die instantly as they spot and start targeting you.
And bikes doesn’t need to be exposed for couple of seconds to start shooting while you’re building that thing.
Even weakest bike with just 50 rounds can shoot it all in single burst unlike MG nests that overheats ultra quick.
then what’s your point. you are saying the same thing I did as to why its not a big deal. 
I just want more ammo for my bikes that are not American. That’s all. Yesterday I got spotted and died two times while reloading my DP-27 and it wasn’t a fun experience, sub 100 rounds in a mag are not fun when you are stationary
And they still haven’t lowered XP required for German/American bikes so good luck grinding them to the max level.
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