Weapon and vehicle Battle Rating changes!

[X_BloodBandit_X]

@CaptainSebekel

No because if fun is selective. It is even the primary joke of gold order guns.

I guarantee most people who bought them, bought them after brs were introduced and same with the usmc tommy squad. Point is, i amongst many others only got them spending real life money so that we could play with a tommy gun in low tier. How can you not understand that moving a tt tommy to br2 (that has a much larger mag) makes all of us feel really shitty having spent money on something that we wouldn’t have otherwise. I like to play br2, it’s much more fun than high tier matches, and i think using a tommy gun is fun, but didn’t want to have to be uptiered to use one.

It’s never a good idea for a game to give people buyer’s remorse down the road like this nor to punish the people who support the game financially. This game is only around because of people like me willing to spend money. It was also just incredibly uncalled for to move m1a1 to br2 to begin with. The only thing balancing the other versions was the low mag size to make you spend more time reloading than shooting. That and you had to spend MONEY on it. Premmy squads for MONEY should offer a slight edge or something unique that you can’t get for free. Moving m1a1 disregards these things all together.

This is all pretty basic stuff.

Also incase you weren’t aware. There are way more gold order guns that offer the user an edge in certain areas of gameplay than don’t. There are very few bad gold order guns that are just unique with no advantage.

[AWildSchuby13]

Can we possibly get a reduced overheat speed on coaxial mg42 and the AA guns on tanks. I can understand the mg42 being needed to balance the game, but it just seems way too fast. As far as the AA guns, they already have weak armor and long reload speeds. Just seems a little unnecessary.

[Augustsheep]

also has no formal guns, and a low payload, its a heavy bomber…and literally quite that. Dauntless uptier then cuz its got 1k bomb.

[Man_bear_pig]

Are you guys aware that the Beltfed DP is still BR V on the test server?

[Myrm1don]

@James_Grove

Decided to get more feedback on it)

OMG!!!

[GENxCatrenko]

Made a post about it earlier. Noticed the ppd40 and ppsh45 were down tiered to 4 but why not do the same with the premium suomi, TT ppsh 41 and mp717?

[TJLockie]

Yeah but have they fixed the crazy out of control handling on it yet?

[Myrm1don]

… Because the Su-9 slides like a 190, maybe it will “finally” get addressed

[Veekay45]

Imagine the face of the average Pz 3 N enjoyer when he now faces IS-1 instead of T-26 lol

[X_BloodBandit_X]

Imagine comparing equipment in different tiers. It’s dumb. But yes the is1 should of been kept in br5

[SzepWaxweiler]

Oh yeah you experienced it as well

@SzepWaxweiler

If you are looking for Bugs it seems SU-9 tilts to left like FW .

[Dregomz]

@X BloodBandit X@live

-mas38 was very suitable for br3 then out of no where it got put in br2. Crazy good

it’s inferior to PPS-43 and especially overpowered Wild Orangutan smg
it headshots like mp40 while shooting much faster, MAS-38 tries to imitate those two guns but can’t hit shit at mid range and it’s dmg is laughable you no longer can two hit tap anyone without body armor

@X BloodBandit X@live

• kp26 again was very suitable for br3, out of no where it got put in br2.

it has power of average Soviet, American and Japanese SMGs so how it’s too strong? VMP also should be put there at BR2 as it has dreadful recoil (needs a buff)

Anyway all three are inferior to brand new Uragan smg. Plus it’s a gold order weapon #paypiggermany

@X BloodBandit X@live

• iar will forever be the best all around low tier fighter

yes but it can’t win matches, smgs win them

@X BloodBandit X@live

• pziii m still at br2 and has 70mm of frontal armor everywhere. Like what?

great yet another paid premium and nothing good in a TT #paypiggermany it’s cannon is the same as TT 50mm so it’s only useful against uptiers and it’s crap against infantry

@X BloodBandit X@live

• 75mm puma short barrel with heat rounds…joking right? This thing is so fun and so overpowered.

it dies in a single hit and has very small amount of shells

@X BloodBandit X@live

• br2 assault rifles…

and they were very weak at close range now with Uragan they are close to worthless

@X BloodBandit X@live

• lahti m/26 is absolutely one of the best machine guns in game at br2

LMAO that gun is total trash

@X BloodBandit X@live

• mg13 is by far the best tech tree br2 machine gun

and yet it still sucks as it bounces every 4-5 shots so you will lose vs Soviet and American smgs, plus you can’t compare MG to Assaulters as Assaulters have 4 of them vs 3, only premium mgs are good enough to fight vs assaulter spammers. #paypiggermany

@X BloodBandit X@live

• berretta m38 is absolutely amazing in low tier and now they just downtiered another version of it

it’s trash inferior rof and bad recoil/dispersion, put that thing in a trash can

@X BloodBandit X@live

• mp35 is crazy good

no it’s even worse than mp40 that is already too weak, it has dreadful added dispersion and recoil over mp40 while only getting a bit of faster rof it’s not worth it, one of the worst guns in a game

@X BloodBandit X@live

• mp719 is crazy good

#paypiggermany

@X BloodBandit X@live

• pavesi m42 is an amazing rifle at br2

agree but it should be a TT weapon as now Soviets have similar gun but with even better dmg per shot so totally not Soviet bias? It needs a dmg buff as it can’t kill in a single shot anyway and armaguerra is laughably bad

@X BloodBandit X@live

• berretta 1918 is one of my favorites

great that you love it but i don’t, mag obscures half of your screen, just 25 rounds, bad recoil, bad dispersion, while soviets have superior pps43 and especially now Uragan that combines power of M1918 and MP40 into one.

@X BloodBandit X@live

As you can see my br2 germany is absolutely stacked.

Stacked with mediocre and also paid stuff so you just confirmed that free players experience is just unplayable as you will always be inferior and keep dying to overpowered or p2w stuff of SOV/USA. Totally not #paypiggermany it’s a shame that you need to pay money/grind events to compete why haven’t you mentioned also premium MP18? Also i have only one KP26 so i can’t compete against Soviets anyway with crappy Mp40/MP35 and MAS-38 is just inferior in every single most important metric.

[Myrm1don]

@SzepWaxweiler

Oh yeah you experienced it as well

yeah it does slide a bit like the 190, but unlike the 190 it controls quite well. otherwise quite smooth and responsive

[Veekay45]

@Euthymia07

if you want to suggest something you have to do it individually

1. Volkssturm weapons (K98 Krieg, MP 3008, VG 2, VG 1-5)
→ BR4 and made dirt cheap
Reasoning: reflecting their real life late war and cheap nature, locking to late war maps, Germany has enough stuff besides them already

2. Fedorov Avtomat
→ BR2, nerfed and reclassified into LMG
Reasoning: reflecting its real life state, flimsy and inaccurate WW1 era design, locking to early war maps, USSR could use another BR2 LMG option (BAR-like)

3. BAR 1918
→ BR2, nerfed
Reasoning: USA faction doesn’t have a single American MG on BR2, BR3 has three variants of BAR, obsolete WW1 variant

4. Puma
->BR3, buffed with a bigger cannon
Reasoning: at the very least let’s have BR1 not face late war (1944) stuff immediately in Moscow/Tunisia

5. Pz IV J and Pz IV H
->BR4
Reasoning: last ditch versions of Pz IV, should be locked to late war maps, Germany already has long barrel Pz IV on BR3, redundant

6. Fantasy stuff (Soviet post war jet, Rocket Pershing, Hori, AS, RD, Autohei, Conders, T20, Hyde, etc.)
->BR6, locked from BR5 with a ±0 MM rule
Reasoning: this stuff has literally nothing to do with WW2

[UJustCumsToMe]

Why only the m4a2 76 version getting downtiered? the m4a1 76 should be downtiered too given it has worse cast hull armor that the a2 version

[Darenius1]

@UJustCumsToMe

the m4a1 76 should be downtiered too given it has worse cast hull armor that the a2 version

Because it always was BR 4?

[Myrm1don]

@UJustCumsToMe

Why only the m4a2 76 version getting downtiered? the m4a1 76 should be downtiered too given it has worse cast hull armor that the a2 version

Sherman firefly should

[Listkom]

@Veekay45

AS, RD,

They were tested in the troops. Quite legally in the game.

@Veekay45

Hori

I believe more that it was really sunk, because the Germans also destroyed everything after themselves. The documents for this tank clearly state its presence (Japanese documents). Naturally, it looked different, I assume, but it was still a Ho-ri.
According to your logic, considering that the conditional Chi-Nu and other Japanese tanks did not fight, ANYWHERE at all, then it should be removed from the game. Go ahead, say it. I’ll laugh pulled out popcorn

And they also added Cold War camouflage to the game. Have fun~

[VonuhLikesCake]

If the Fedorov is getting a damage buff because of the full sized rifle round then shouldn’t all Select Fire / Semi Auto rifles in game that use full sized rifle rounds also get a damage buff?

[VonuhLikesCake]

Agreed with the Fedorov. Nerf it, give it a stripper clip reload, reclass it as an LMG (I believe the Premium version is already classed as an LMG) and then throw it in BR 2.

It would be especially nice for early Finnish maps, if Finland was ever added to the game.