go check on the Enlisted resource yourself.
I don’t need to provide evidence that is accessible to everyone, that is common knowlegde.
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Again
does real data scare you?
Or you don’t understand, this is another?
you either have selective eyesights or you are ignorant and only accept information which confirm your opinions
germans doesn’t have a “fair weapon” against Federov Avtomat. 
germans doesn’t have a “fair weapon” against the TechTree MPs with high RoF
germans doesn’t have a “fair weapon” against 2 x 100 rounds MG of the russians.
why not dealing with the fact that germans have a weapon (rifle class) which is better the the russians? russians doesn’t need on every weapon class a rifle / MP / MG / plane / tank which is at the same level then germans and / or better. same goes for the germans: do they need a 100 round MG - from my point of view not really. I can live with the fact that I “only” have a 50-75 round magazine. And on top: it’s not about the weapon, it’s about the player using it. I can outplay most BR 5 semi and full auto mode rifle players with a repeating rifle.
Plus this is the first source that mentions that the German soldiers were told to only use automatic fire in “emergency” and is also pretty vague here, does not even base it on something, leaving us to guess why the Germans got that told and what emergency means. I assume this refers to CQC, which wouldnt be that bad since most armies encourages soldiers to use automatic weapons on semi mode on medium and long range to conserve ammo and improve accuracy and use auto mode in CQC. Also, Enlisted has short ranges only anyways to the point where combat ranges do not meet effective range of machine guns.
Second source is a book I have to buy so I cant read it. If you have it, maybe share those pages. But funny that the title says automatic weapons/ rifles and includes semi-automatic rifles.
here:
| Weapon Name | Obtained | BR | 10m | 100m | Velocity | Magazine | Reload | Rate of Fire | Start | Clip | Single | End | Vertical | Horizontal | Dispersion | ADS | Hipfiring | Visual Recoil | Recoil Dir | ADS Speed | Recoil Offset | Sprint Factor | Weight | Additional Info |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Gewehr 41 | 74000 XP | III | 14.4 | 11.8 | 750 | 10 | 4.8 | 350 | 1.00 | 1.30 | 0.80 | 1.20 | 85 | 30 | 0.20 | 0.0 | 15.0 | 1.3 | 0.35 | 0.77 | - | 100% | 4.9 | 10/40 |
| Weapon Name | Obtained | BR | 10m | 100m | Velocity | Magazine | Reload | Alt Reload | Rate of Fire | Vertical | Horizontal | Recoil Control | Vertical | Horizontal | Dispersion | ADS | Hipfiring | Visual Recoil | Recoil Dir | ADS Speed | Recoil Offset | Sprint Factor | Weight | Additional Info |
| SVT-38 | 74000 XP | III | 14.4 | 11.8 | 815 | 10 (+1) | 2.6 | 2.0 | 350 | 88 | 22 | - | 88 | 22 | 0.20 | 0.0 | 15.0 | 1.3 | 0.3 | 0.8 | - | 100% | 3.95 | 10/40 |
Im lazy to copy the rest of the weapons.
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You can’t give entire weapons to 9 men and rush)
The better question is, why does anyone bother with a foreign manual on Enlisted forum.
According to helpers these are inaccurate sources.
neither you can’t with germans.
don’t get me wrong: I have nothing against your suggestion. I can live with the fact if AVS and AVT would get 20 rounds magazine but I also could live with the fact if they don’t. AVS is such a great rifle in enlisted and tbh I like it more the FG - sounds strange but it is, what it is.
Let’s say you get the 20 round magazine, how about damage reduction for AVS and AVT from 15.8 and 15.3 to 14.4 (same like FG)? Would be only “fair”.
I honestly don’t understand why one nation always feels disadvantaged. 
The Russians have the better MPs and MGs and the Germans have the better tanks and rifles on BR 5
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The factions have some asymmetry. The Sovjet have way better assualt rifles, SMG’s and LMG’s, Germans have better select fire rifles and vehicles.
Its never 100% balanced but high BR german VS Soviet is quite balanced.
Like I get kinda tired of mains arguing about how unfair the disadvantages of their faction are. Its similar to German mains complaining about the StG not having a bayonet and soviet bais. I play both factions and I can testify that your not losing battles because of the weapons.
But to help you out at least, get the Gorov while you stil can. It has 20 rounds and for some wierd reason is classified as a select fire rifle. Its recoil is just as bad as the AVS but has 20 bullits
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I won’t agree that any weapon that was adopted, serially produced by thousands, issued to troops and used in battle can be called fake.
Do I wish FG-42 wasn’t available for every infantryman? Yes.
Do I think every faction needs clones of each others’ best weapons? No.
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I don’t have a problem with damage reduce. Also struggle about low capacity at short range. Iam
prefer a close combat style so it would be fine enough
SF rifles is questionable when soviets have body armor that make those SF rifles worse than soviet rifles in killing potential. AVT40/AVS36 need 1 bullet to down within 70-80m and 1 to kill, so they have potential to kill 7.5 soldiers with 1 magazine. fg42 needs 2 bullets to down on all ranges and 1 to kill giving them potential to kill 6.66 soldiers with 1 magazine if enemy has vitality+body armor.
only thing that germany has better than soviets are tanks and that is mostly cause of KT cause on other tiers soviets have comparable or slightly worse tanks.
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It’s all a theory - practice told us - its extremely effective and so be it. Just give a fair ammo capacity to AVT and slightly down damage
On paper yes, in reality people couldn’t even tell the difference without data miners.
On other hand, German tanks are better at first glance.
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if you are so depressed by the Fedorov machine gun then what will happen to you against 9 Type Hei who are better in everything?
and do you agree to have a rate of fire of 600 rounds per minute?
or ridiculous damage at 9.9 like RD
or you can’t implement mg42 which is good for rank 5
with such parameters and rate of fire
oops…oh how inconvenient
I would gladly watch the crying if the FG-42 and FG-42-II had the same parameters of dispersion and accuracy as the AVT-40
Can you?
Of course not
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FG42/II had the worst dispersion and recoil than AVT-40 or any other SF rifle for years and we still kicked your ass despite that it shows a lot of general Soviet population that despite having the most overpowered guns they still can’t win.
Now once FG42 got buffed and is finally on par with other rifles you ask to buff your only all right non completely OP gun in your arsenal of the most overpowered guns in history of Enlisted.
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they couldnt tell difference cause most players are so bad that it really doesnt matter if someone has better or worse rifle against them. some people could play with pistol and still outperform people with fg42.
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LMAO
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like i said i dont mind that AVT40 has bigger magazine capacity, just that it also needs body armor removed at same time. anything that influences gun balance and is not available for silver should not be a thing in the game, specially cause it is only available to either veterans or p2w players.
No, because there’s no need to shoot single shots with SFs. I can’t even remember last time I encountered someone using SF rifles in semi mode.
It’s always just about who starts shooting first. That’s all that matters.