We have the MG 42 100. Now it is time to give us what we really want

Clearly 1500 rof that was subject, never existed now as I forgot your 900.

So is constant HVAR spam but so far no hvars for germuts ?

Okay, so with somekind of mental gymnastics MG42 has to be standard issue or something something but hyde & T20 are fine ?

So such existed, but cannot be added because no prove of them being used in move ?
But again, T20 & Hyde that never even was in europe are fine ?

Aka my point, with what mental gymnastics prove of germut equipment usage is anykind of requirement when another faction runs with guns that never were even used ?

Double standards much ?

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Itā€™s not absurd at all when itā€™s an Advantage of a Faction that Emphasized its Machine Guns where they were the ā€œMain Forceā€

Once again you will avoid a topic that does not benefit you historically

It must be TT since it is a weapon with high military participation in WW2, unlike the Stinger, which only has 6 units.

well have source that claims it was only possible with certain type of ammo so :man_shrugging:

and i completely agree with it. that is why it should have 1200 rof.

this on other hand is much more complicated. if you want it to have historical capacity as LMG, then they would need to remove 100 belt in run and gun style(max 50 rounds with drum/belt). anything with 100+ rounds would need deployment and stationary position.

what is exactly my faction? can you actually tell me?
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Thatā€™s its own balance issue, adding other ridiculously powerful items to the tech tree isnā€™t a fix.
To humour this for a moment though, thereā€™s already been steps made to try balance this and reduce s*icide rocket runs with a timer, and thereā€™s usually only 1 plane at any one time doing this, usually at least.
I main Japan I know how awful rocket spam is.

No, itā€™s Zomber that has argued that it is. So it should be a TT item. Iā€™m arguing if anything like that should come to the game it should be a limited event item.

Iā€™m not arguing the existence of the item itself. Iā€™m saying itā€™s ridiculous as a TT item.

Zomber has argued 1500rpm and 250 round belt is standard. Iā€™ve disagreed with this point specifically and want proof of that claim specifically.

I have no problem with the item existing if itā€™s implemented like the stinger (though the stinger mag size is wrong and should be corrected.

Refer to what I said last. Youā€™ve misunderstood and misinterpreted my main point.

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t20 and hyde at least have similar performance to fg42 and stg44. adding mg42 with 1500 rounds and high ammo capacity should exist to counter what exactly? m1919a6 with 550rpm and 100 rounds? maxim tokarev with 660rpm and 100 rounds? rd44 with lower damage, 830rpm and 100 rounds?

mg42 with 1200 rpm and 100 rounds would perfectly counter stinger if devs actually fixed it.

The MG42 with the 7.92 X57mm Mauser fires this Cadence

It must be 1500 to be at its maximum capacity, just like the 1800 of the MG45 Premium

In the game we have the Stinger with 200 bullets in a 100 round magazine.We have ā€œinvisibleā€ tapes with no movement limit. But now you want to limit it for Germany.

Seeing your denial it seemed like you were one of those fanatics who only like to see Germany suffer with HVAR SPAM and Bombs

Iā€™ve said all I needed to at this point.

To summarise .

Iā€™m fine for Germany to get a powerful lmg with high fire rate and large mag if itā€™s in scarce supply through an event.

I disagree the standard for German machine gunners running around was 1500rpm and 250 round belts especially

Historical accuracy aside itā€™s not my main point. I disagree with Zomberā€™s historical claims specifically and I donā€™t think they have any weight for reasoning to implement such a thing.

In terms of the game my main concern is and will always be balance.

I think such a TT item is not good for the gameā€™s balance.

Now have a good one everyone. Anything further from here would be me repeating myself.

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Nor it clearly aint problem either as devs havent had rush to add hvars for germuts.

Which at best scenario, yes reduces hvar spam about as long as it takes to resupply.
In worst scenario, it doesnt. Since any dmg to plane nullifies the suicide penalty.
So we have this new kind of problem shall I or shall I not shoot at that plane?

So are HVARS ?

seems to outclass fg42 in most of stats.

650rof vs 800rof, stg has 0.2 more dmg so technically weā€™re speaking similar situation with slightly closer stats compared to good old mp40 vs ppsh.

Hvars ? T20 ? Hyde ? M2 ?

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and here i thought that it was only possible with 12.7x99mm ammo.

maybe you didnt see all those posts where i said that they should fix stinger?

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Me watching everyone have a meltdown in the comments when I just wanted to talk about the chonky boy:

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Situational Irony.

Apologies for partaking in a seperate discussion within it. But for what itā€™s worth Iā€™d absolutely love to see your suggestion in game!

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Hey, no worries lmao. Honestly a certain someone always turns it into a shitstorm whenever German MGs are brought up.

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I donā€™t see the game being played with Germany on the subject of the Constant Spam of BOMBS and ROCKETS by the Allies in Normandy, Ardennes for YEARS

Like the AS-44, T20, Hyde M1944 which open the doors to Prototype weapons Where Germany is affected by these same

They have had time to fix or balance the said issue since introduction of them.
So far little to nothing have been done, exception being suicide prevention which was more of a subject of toxic gameplay.

So we already have had for years things that are OP and remains ā€œun fixedā€ or ā€œbalancedā€ so clearly its not much of issue to add such mg either.

A good machine gun for BR I-III, I will be happy to use it

More akin to the Browning 1919 or Maxim-Tokarev at BRV. Unless you were meaning to move them to BRIII aswell.

In the German tree it would be BR I-III, I see it more like a Type 99 or a Bren

Yeah, just the Browning 1919 and Maxim-Tokarev would be the other nationsā€™s equivalents. As long as you move those to the same BR.

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Other option would be this
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