Vehicle Battle rating will be a mess, and here is why:

how would one decide what BR a vehicle has?

Better armor and better gun = better tank? Is it really that simple?

I ask this question because I dare to say that the first Moscow Panzer IV is an overall better vehicle than the Berlin IS-2, because of one very simple fact: it is much better at playing the objective- which is helping your team capture positions by killing enemy infantry.

Sure it is nice to be able to defeat the enemy armor, but if the enemy armor is a tank hunter with little to no anti infantry power you might as well let him live - just like fighter planes with no bombs - having those as your enemy means you have much less problems capturing the objective.

Which is why the BR system with vehicles is gonna be a mess to balance.

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AB 41 best tank

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War Thunder

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AA tanks in warthunder are kinda like that yea

Tiger E (BR 5.7) = German slow and big potato

You can always take low BR tank to high BR battle if you desire so. :tipping_hand_man:

So I honestly really don’t understand what’s your problem. Probably just trying to create irrelevant fake drama.

If they use this as a reference, the game is fucked

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They probably have data that tells them how different gear performs and will balance accordingly

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Thats a choice isnt it…do you want a better infantry support tank, a better anti tank, or somewhere in between. Choices are nice, you can tailor your gameplay.

Also panzer IV isnt in the same class of tank as IS 2. Panzer IV 75mm short is an infantry support tank.

I dare say like warthunder, BR will be loosely based on time period, opposition they faced, and what they can actually handle. Depends how much they compress BRs. And there will be nothing stopping you uptiering yourself…i.e panzer II vs IS 2

There is a point in warthunder where ww2 tanks and planes routinely face off again post war equipment.

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yeah, I guess that will be the case.

I can’t see any other way to balance this out than to put it period based… though period based equipment will be doomed to be “unbalanced in many aspects” - like imagine that the “Volkssturmgewehr” or the German Berlin Bolt action with a G43 magazine will have the same battle rating as the STG, or the FG42 will be lower battlerating than the G43 because of the time it was build …

So 100% based on time period will make no sense at all, but a compromise could somewhat work…

Like i said, loosely, im pretty sure all bolt actions will be on the lower end.

I am looking forward to more rifle focused games (Low tier), but at the same time at high tier there most likely wont be a single rifle (only reason i dont like that is immersion, but doesnt matter much)

Unless they have some brilliant idea that forces a portion of your forces to be equipped with rifles (i doubt cos players love their automatics)

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People who want to bring bolt action rifles to a full-auto auto fight will be able to. People who want to bring full-auto to a bolt action fight (Like we have now), will not. That’s fine by me.

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