Jumbo has been already in an awkward BR position in War Thunder and its going to be in an awkward position here too if BR system implemented with being OP in a full downtier but garbage in uptier.
Yeah, basically problem of every tank that’s heavily depending on its armor.
It will be always somewhat strong in tank vs tank combat tho, because in majority of cases you simply can do few mistakes (unlike with pz IVs) But at this BR Germans should have pretty good infantry AT weapons. So I really don’t think it will be somewhat OP.
People just think that’s every that has low skill threshold is OP, prime example are flamethrowers. Every guy can somewhat effectively use it.
But truly master it? That’s really hard. Majority guys I have met with jumbos are just extremely bad, same goes with people who are spamming flamethrowers.
It’s annoying to face them all the time tho.
That’s not the only weak spot to shoot with Tiger E and Panthers you know.
allright, the jumbo and the panzer 4h are unlocked at the same tech tree level and are most likely going to be same if not similar BR.And the fact about the AT weapons is kind of a lie,the PIAT is miles above the sturmpistol,and the m1 bazooka and the panzerfaust are pretty balanced.
Irrevelant? when the merge happens,If you get in a panzer 4h you could get destroyed by a jumbo,to the mid tier less skilled players it has value that they are not fighting this busted tank
Lol, I disagree.
Not a single person is forcing you to take certain vehicle. Especially if you are aware that the enemy vehicle on the same BR is hard to destroy for you.
I really don’t know why every fkn game needs to be specially “balanced” for spoiled babies nowadays. There’s so many ways how to destroy a fkn tank.
Good player would simply destroy its cannon. And that’s it. Especially after new repair system implementation.
Why do you say balance is unnecessary?I do not want to get curb stomped every game by a tank that can take on the panzer 4 up to the tiger with no problem.and yes,no one is forcing you to take a tank,but they can be massive game changers for the game
yes, but the best way is tank v tank,running up with AT launchers gets you shot at,CAS just gets shot down half the time,and AT guns are useless
No, best way how to destroy tank is with aircraft.
you get shot down half the time in normandy axis by either a p47 or an AA gun
I haven’t read anything after the thread’s title. There’s plenty of those
“Balance issues” threads already and…
Most seem to come from faction exclusive mains…
Also, because I’m almost certain jumbo is mentioned somewhere, pz4 got it’s long barrel finally patched and working. Deadly glass canon, provided one aims well. Are they equal? No ofc, jumbo is more useful… but on other lvls, is the USA Howitzer as good as pz3N? Is m10 comparable to panther? Etc.
Vehicles aren’t all equal at the same lvl, but will be close once Enlisted undergoes it’s War Thunder conversion. Food for thoughts.
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Pfft you hate the Jumbo in WT just because its weakspot on the only part you can’t pen, which will always be right in front of your eyes and is consistent with every single American tank before and after, is “too small?”
I hate the fact it exists in the first place. It’s a stupid spot that unless my measly 75 can kill or cripple my opponent first (haha orange Tiger barrels) will get me killed in every engagement regardless of anything
Besides! If hitting the MG port doesn’t work, you can always just hit my tread, go through it the long way (through my sprocket in the process usually), enter my side, and instantly detonate my ammo behind it. From in front of me. At a near 180° angle. Meanwhile I can’t even hit your “medium” Panther’s cheeks to pen it and hope to be able to damage something important enough to survive the situation
HVAR got nerfed so it’s not as good as bombs at taking the vehicles, Jumbo is op but with the merge it should be at same tier as Panther, pz4j was always too weak so it need to go lower in BR with M8 scott and Sherman 75mm. Firefly is not that great it has better pen than 76mm Sherman but lack of any HE filler which completely kills that tank to me you don’t need that high of a pen 76mm already do just fine against Tigers, no it’s not a premium tiger it’s armor is completely useless like usual Shermans that get’s destroyed even by pumas. Axis has amazing Panzerwerfer 42 that can murder entire enemy team with rockets it’s a glass cannon so it will die to anything in a single hit. Germans should get belt fed mg42 Since murricans have m1919 that’s for sure.
WAIT HVARS GOT NERFED?! When? Was it during my break towards the beginning of the year? Dang it why must they hurt God’s favorite rocket like that? Frick. Well, there goes our literally only solution to gray zoners outside of a lucky M9 shot to the front at a 90°
Man that sucks though. They didn’t need to do my HVARS dirty like that. The dang Kraut rockets perform just as good due to their obscene blast radius. We just get numbers meaning we can spread ours out a lot more
About a month ago. They still feel great vs infantry but vs tank they are weaker than bombs and you need to have perfect angle to actually kill a tank. Nowadays i see more German planes killing Shermans 76mm than Allies killing Tigers with their rockets.
Frick man
Stupid Krauts always complaining about crap. Swear they never stop till they’re only dominating match after match because “muh Wehrmacht superiority” or whatever. Insert 5 Shermans per 1 Tiger here
So how does Darkflow suppose we deal with camping Tigers? Only thing that can tank a hit from it’s the Jumbo, but the only thing that can consistently pen it at range (and requires a near perfect 90°) are the 76’s. HVARS and bombs were the only things that gave us actual options. Now we’re down to bombs which are quite a bit harder for some of us to aim. I say revert that bullcrap. The rocket was made to be able to penetrate armor. Let it penetrate armor
They nerfed the Rocket pen for all the rockets, before was 300mm+ pen or something, now you really need to go for the right angle for it…
Bombs are still great thought
I like this one, Panzerblitz when? Time to show some german rocket science than using the dogwater Wr.Gr.21 with weaker performance than HVAR despite having double the size
The germans been killing tanks with bombs in every other campaign except maybe Normandy, guess time to learn and back to basic? Nor that Rockets are useless, they can still kill tank but now you actually need skill to do itn is even funnier having Autocannons designed to kill tanks cant even kill a Stuart or damage it since I dunno, the very existence of Normandy? And yet I don’t see the Dev give a shite about that
I like the convenience of rockets though. Infinitely easier to hit. Heck decent portion my tank kills with bombs are accidental. “Oh shoot, didn’t know that Puma was there”
Well, whatever. It’ll be a while yet before I get back to using the P-47. Still got the 76mm Squad I’m working on and 2 plane squads till then