Urgent need for addressing Western Allie BR post merge

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(Note: I main both german axis and western allies, the problem is seen from both sides of the equation)

In order for western allies to not be completely unplayable post merge, they will need the following to occur:

The number of tiers should be increased to 6, with each set of two facing one another.

The exception for this would be Western Allies tier 5 which can either face germany tier 4 and 5, or tier 5 alone. NEVER FACING TIER 6

Reasoning for never facing tier 6 axis: they have VASTLY superior small arms and western allies have almost nothing on par with them, let alone anything to deal with the Tiger II H

The allies have maxed gear on par with what is currently around tier 4 axis on the test server

Western allies DESPERATELY need a 76 jumbo as the counter to the tiger E, as it gets armor and a great gun. We shouldn’t have to de-track and de-barrel grayzoning tigers hoping the player using them eventually gives up trying to repair them.

The german tiger E can be set at the high end of tier 5 along with the kiraly (assuming 6 tiers) as a result of this.

The first thompsons, m1a1 and m1928 box magazine should sit in tier 4, with the m21/28 and drum magazine in tier 5 (again assuming 6 tiers here)

With tier 6 only against the soviets, the germans can finally get a belt fed mg42 to match the RD44 as well, without the worry that it will face the vastly inferior (in relation to the mg42 belt feed anyways) m1919a6

This allows for a proper middle tier matchmaking process for the western allies/axis

credit to @S109 Storm@live

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this is needed desperately
as someone who plays all factions
allies dont wanna get slaughtered vs stuff tehy got no solution to
and as axis I dont wanna just farm bots cause allies players all stay low BR only to be able to actually play

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I suppose Darkflow believes that they can added some 90mm tanks and stronger bombers to the US to solve this problem.

As for small arms, does US still have room for improvement? I think no unless Darkflow implement more experimental weapons.

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hyde 1944 carbine and T20E2 as unlockable have been suggested, but right now the biggest problem is tiger 2H, which can be counter by real life M36 Jackson and Pershing or infantry use superzooka

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I’m not a WT player, so I might be wrong, but I had heard that the M4A2 76 would be capable of killing the Tiger II (H). Is this not true?

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The Tiger II had a front plate of 150mm angled at 30°. With a standard AP M79 shot from the 76mm M1 gun the best penetration you could hope is roughly 109mm.

There is also HVAP M93 shot, which may have a chance at very close range with a maximum armor penetration of 158mm, but that is also not taking angling into account.

You might be thinking of the Tiger I, not Tiger II. The Tiger I’s front plate was only 102mm thick at a 10° angle. Well within the capabilities of the 76mm M1 gun to handle up to 1000 yards.

M1 Cannon performance details

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Tiger 2 armor layout

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Tiger 1 armor

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well in war thunder they have this
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The sherman 76 cannot pen the Tiger 2 H from the front however it can pen it from the side.
M26 Pershing 90mm also has insufficient penetration to pen the Tiger 2 H front armor.

U would require the long barrel 90mm which is on the Super Pershing to pen the front Turret of the Tiger 2 H.

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OR! They could just trash the merge and battle ratings all together, while keeping the tech trees for the factions unlocking the equipment once for all campaigns.

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Problems solved and game will stay fun and relevant

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You seriously have no faith in Americans as players

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I’m sure there are 3 pixcels where 76 will pen it.
So it’s fine.

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What are you smoking? Tiger E and regular Jumbo both can’t pen each other ( MG port being the exception)

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“Lol aim at Jumbo ehm Tiger pixle MG port lol”

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