TZ-45 decrease BR III --> BR II - opinions?

[GetOut0fMyWay]

@Adamnpee

That’s why I hate when BR2 mains are pushing for unnecessary changes like this.

I am not a BR II main player (if you mean my person with that). I played all kind of BR’s even the “unpopular” BR IV in past and I also don’t care in past to play with BR III against BR V. And if I am right, my most played battles are in BR V - not BR II.
Currently I have mates grinding the factions which need help - does this makes me a “BR II main” → not really.

[GetOut0fMyWay]

@Luvs2spooge

I would be much happier if they left the TZ-45 at BR3 and just correctly buffed the FNAB 43 to it’s correct rate of fire which would then put it on par with the PPS42. IMOP this is a much better plan, especially since the FNAB is a TT weapon while the TZ is one premium squad. Besides, their aren’t many decent level three smg’s for Germany, the only other one I like is the ZK-383.

Thank you for the factual and constructive manner in which you presented your arguments.
As I said, these were merely “thought experiments” regarding to the TZ-45 Squad.
Of course, I prefer the FNAB-43 buff which hopefully comes “soon™”.

[Luvs2spooge]

@GetOut0fMyWay

Of course, I prefer the FNAB-43 buff which hopefully comes “soon™”.

Well, I wouldn’t hold my breath on that as I am batting ZERO with all my suggestions to Gaijin. They love my money, just not my suggestions. To me, the FNAB should be a no brainer, but what do I know.

[CaptainSebekel]

@Adamnpee

That’s such hypocritical reasoning.

In what way exactly?

@Adamnpee

But once those weapons are downgraded to lower BR, they will be seen as BR2 weapons. They will completely lose any potential to buff and rebalance according to powercreep in the future.

Did that happen in the past though? Also, at least as of right now, is there something wrong with the gun that requires fixes?

@Adamnpee

It’s literally just a devaluing of premium squad

You mean those overpriced (mostly) sidegrade squads only consoomers buy at their full price?
What is the point of value if this squad cannot be sold anyway? You buy the squad for the gun or the skin of the soldiers, maybe for the premium squad perks, not to larp digital Pokemon card collecting.
And in any regard, nothing would change. Still performs the same, the squad is still the same, there is no value to begin with and the only change is BR. And arguably a squad that can be used in more BRs adds more value than a squad that is less flexible.

[CaptainSebekel]

But TZ should stay in BR3 since its a better Beretta. The Partisan SMG should move up instead (?)

[TUSUPOLISI69]

@Adamnpee

Germany already have 20+

And if 2 of them is comparable to other factions, how are these 18 other obsolete guns advantage ?
As new player you grind thru guns that are useless, while in other faction you can get competent equipment in just few levels ?

Just curious, with what logic is this advantage

[GetOut0fMyWay]

@Adamnpee

Well, there’s literally nothing good about such change.

Like I said, It was more a “thought experiments” from my side. I accept your pint of view.

@Adamnpee

How many BR2 SMGs has been completed devalued because of bad decision to add uragan/lower Thompson m1a1 to BR2?

True in that case.
Maybe I am an exception here: I continue to use the PPS-42 on the USSR side because it is much more comfortable for me - good, not very good rate of fire and therefore much more comfortable weapon handling. Same goes for the Lanchester, instead of the M1A1 Thompson - I tested the “tommy gun” and I really don’t like the slow muzzle velocitys. That’s why I used the Lanchester in past on BR III+

[robihr]

i have 2 opinions on this.

1. on first look doesnt seem that much different from pps42, but with +5 extra magazine, so it is ok to move to BR2
2. stop moving all BR3 SMG to BR2. lot of BR2 smg should go to BR3 or some BR2 smg should be nerfed.

[TUSUPOLISI69]

@Adamnpee

Completely missing the point, in correlation with what I have said:

@Adamnpee

What you want to do is diminish the importance of those 18 smgs even more.

Do enlight me what is the purpose of these 18 obsolete smg’s ?
Hard grind thru 18 obsolete smg’s against enemies that unlocks competent equipment in just few levels ?

@Adamnpee

But that doesn’t matter to people like you, since you don’t play anything but meta students on each individual BR anyway.

No shit ? I can fairly confidentally throw a sophisticated guess that majority of people chooses the best available equipment they can have, rather than enjoying 18 different variants of obsolete.

@Adamnpee

That’s why you’re so incredibly triggered when your faction’s meta is the weakest.

Quite sure I was just asking your reasoning, with what logic having to grind thru 18 obsolete smg’s is advantage ?

[robihr]

@Adamnpee

That’s how meta minmaxers are arguing over balance changes.

well balance should mean something. if on BR2 you have similar gun that is on BR3 for other nation, then either one gun should got to BR2 or other should go to BR3.

[Master_Snail]

I swear the arguments over the merge weren’t as heated as what this simple suggestion of a down tier turned into.

[VonuhLikesCake]

How am I supposed to enjoy the deep intricate juicy lore of the thread if everyone’s posts keep getting flagged?

[GetOut0fMyWay]

@sku111

suggestion

I justed wanted to hear opinions. It was never my intention that this escalated so quickly

[Master_Snail]

I know. I’m just as astounded as you are. Hopefully dark flow seeing the ruckus this has created will actually listen to us, as we all know they only do things to annoy us.

[GetOut0fMyWay]

I messaged a mod, asking if he could take a quick look and see if anyone was abusing the reporting system.
→ That would be extremely childish.

[ParaDivision]

its on the power level of the uragan and around the powerlevel of the pps43 and thompson.
if 3 br2 SMGs are equal/better than this thing, it has to become BR2.

also the squad has retarded perks afaik, making it worse than just playing a normal assaulter 3/4 squad.

also, how toxic did this thread become when i see half greyed out comments

[GetOut0fMyWay]

@ParaDivision

also, how toxic did this thread become when i see half greyed out comments

half of the comments weren’t toxic - there is somebody abusing the report system. even complete normal messages were flagged.

[VonuhLikesCake]

People are BIG BIG MAD over a simple weapon BR change suggestion

[Master_Snail]

I just posted a suggestion saying we should down tier the MP35…I wonder what hell i have brought upon myself now.

[Adamnpee]

@GetOut0fMyWay

I messaged a mod, asking if he could take a quick look and see if anyone was abusing the reporting system.

I did the same thing. And I want them to transparently share the names of those who are behind it.

Especially when someone accuses me of being the one abusing the system.