I must admit I love that slow lumbering metal slug (Not that classic fun arcade game)
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Its just the cherry on top I guess.
Current Italian one feels way better than the allied one on tank VS tank combat.
Is a tank destroyer not a tank
“a bit of history”
The Semovente da 75/18s were deployed in the North African campaign and during the Allied invasion of Sicily, alongside M tank units to provide additional firepower. Despite the fact that they were not designed to fight other tanks, their 75 mm howitzer proved ideal (thanks to its low muzzle velocity) for firing HEAT shells; its 5.2 kg HEAT shell ("Effetto Pronto " in Italian) could pierce 80 mm of armour at 500 meters, and could thus defeat tanks such as the US built M3 Grant and M4 Sherman used by the British Army.[4] As such, these machines were responsible for many of the successes by the Italian armoured troops during 1942–43, when the medium tanks (all armed with a 47 mm M35 gun) were no longer effective. On another account, the Semovente da 75/18 on M14 chasis allowed the 132nd Armoured Division Ariete and the 133rd Armoured Division Littorio a somewhat wider tactical repertoire until British deployment of U.S. medium tanks negated that small advantage.[5]
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Thx. Always good to know.
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Seems like the Semovente was nonsensically gimped.
It’s a self-propelled howitzer and they removed its HE?
i think it would be to powerfull with the HE, but i havent try it yet so idk.
Why would you use a French tank for the Italians when htey have plenty of hteir own.
The various 47mm gunned mediaums are fine for the early stages IMO - good matches for A13, Crusader II and even not totaly outclassed by Crusader III (the gun is - but they can kil it!)
Indeed - but that won’t stop the whining.
Even if it is very obviously stated - both that it exists, and what the presumed advantages for each side in different areas are.
The complaints about their advantages being better than ours will never cease! 
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because french tanks are funny/cool and historically the italians used them. Plus it’s a little more survivable than the average italian light tank, but has a tradeoff in firepower. Why do the british use an American tank?
The British use an American one becuase it was their main battle tank - and indeed the introduction of the Lee/Grant in the deseert was is an iconic moment in British and Commonwealth histories - FINALLY the tanks were able to compete properly.
Those Lee/Grants were so much part of hte UK/Comm forces that when supplanted by Shermans they shipped them off to Burnma - where they remained in use right until the end of the war.
None of which applies to the captured French ones.
Actually curious about captured French tanks in Italian service - can’t find anything about hem on the 'net at all. How many? where did they serve?
ETA - found this article on Axis history forum - R35’s in Sicily, S35’s in Sardinia, a few armoured cars captured in Tunis in 1940, and some Char B’s at least for testing, plus a lot of UE tractors.
Italy received 32 Somua S-35s from the Germans, which were delivered to the 131st Tank Regiment in 1941, which were used in primarily in Sardinia and during the Invasion of Sicily along with other captured french tanks. I’m not claiming they were common, I’m claiming they were around at the time, which is the point of my lineup. There were fewer than 100 T-50s produced by the soviets but they’re awful common in moscow.
have a lazy wiki link
I guess my main point is that overall, exacting historical accuracy doesn’t really matter in Enlisted so far? Like jumbos were never at Normandy, they only arrived later since they were in england. So by the same logic, S-35s were only a jaunt across the Med away.
Yeah found an article as noted in an edit to the post above yours.
T-50’s were at least in combat at the time of the Moscow campaign - even if nowhere near Moscow! And TBH I think they are complete immersion killer there - as is the Jumbo in Normandy. Heck even the T-28 in Moscow is likely nonsense - T-28E perhaps - but the available records that I’ve seen show no T-28’s on Moscow front at all by December 1941.
The lack of reasonable historical and geographical accuracy pisses me off with this game - adding more to it is not somethign I see as an improvement in any way.
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I’d agree–if i thought the devs would ever really walk the jumbo/T-50/other historical funkyness back in the future. I think there’s only a certain level of accuracy we can get out of Darkflow, and that’s “Rough year and regional proximity”, so might as well try and get something interesting out of it.
(I’d stop shilling for french captured and re-issued tanks if we ever got word DF would do an invasion of france campaign)
Yes, Semovente in italian is self-propelled, the semovente is a self-propelled adapted to be used as an tank-destroyer there are different variants of the semovente because Italy has never invested in tanks in the pre-war period and after the war began when m13 / 14 proved useless against enemy tanks semovente instead it achieved excellent results in combat
SEMOVENTE 75/18
The Semovente da 75/18s were deployed in the North African campaign and during the Allied invasion of Sicily, alongside M tank units to provide additional firepower. Despite the fact that they were not designed to fight other tanks, their 75 mm howitzer proved ideal (thanks to its low muzzle velocity) for firing HEAT shells; its 5.2 kg HEAT shell ("Effetto Pronto " in Italian) could pierce 80 mm of armour at 500 meters, and could thus defeat tanks such as the US built M3 Grant and M4 Sherman used by the British Army.[4] As such, these machines were responsible for many of the successes by the Italian armoured troops during 1942–43, when the medium tanks (all armed with a 47 mm M35 gun) were no longer effective. On another account, the Semovente da 75/18 on M14 chasis allowed the 132nd Armoured Division Ariete and the 133rd Armoured Division Littorio a somewhat wider tactical repertoire until British deployment of U.S. medium tanks negated that small advantage.[5]