Hello! I made this suggestion on the reddit and figured that I should also put it here given that this is the suggestion area for this game. This was my suggestion;
I notice that in this game, german forces sprint with both hands on the rifle. As far as I know, this is not very historically accurate as they were trained carry their rifles in the right hand in order to free their left hand for rest, bracing when going prone, and to allow them to fire more accurately after bringing both hands to the rifle. Red orchestra 2 demonstrates such a method of carry and in my opinion, this difference grants the player better identification of enemies.
While it is generally not much of an issue, there are times when playing lone fighter where it is hard to tell if a silhouette is friend or foe. Perhaps adding this historical detail would help differentiate enemy from friendly?
Also, a user on the reddit forum suggested giving the player across the board the choice between the current sprint and this sprint with this sprint giving a bonus to speed, while this wouldn’t help people with positive identification, it might be more historically accurate given that it seems that soldiers from every country sometimes sprinted like this.
Some historical evidence, Soviet soldiers
American Soldier
No they weren’t. They have one arm free because crouching and “getting small” is easier with just one arm free rather than holding the gun with both arms. Clearly you never served in the Army.
Because, lets face it:
Soviet Soldiers also carried it with one arm.
Shocking, I know.
You are correct that I have never served in the Army. http://www.dererstezug.com/HandletheRifle.htm
This is where I am getting my information about german rifle doctrine in ww2. I am interested if you have an objection to this article, I would love to know what the real training doctrine was back then with regards to this!
The reality is that it’s one of those cases were doctrine has little say in how people actually behave, and in combat you do what works for you and not the idealized on-paper body movements…
If you watch German soldiers moving in period footage, you will notice the rifle is almost always carried with the right hand only, and held down at full arm’s length (known to modern hunters as the “trail carry”). This allows the rifleman to run easier and swing the left arm. It is also easier on the soldier, who carries the rifle for hours at a time (we have now added handles to the tops of modern rifles for this very reason).
Most if not ALL rifles of the German Army are operated for Right handers.
Now pretend you never held a rifle in your lifetime, you would lift it up, grab the end with the left hand, reach down with the right and load through and do your shot.
and swing the left arm
Swing for what? Lmao.
It is also easier on the soldier, who carries the rifle for hours at a time (we have now added handles to the tops of modern rifles for this very reason).
I dont think that this really matters, Soldiers marched up to 40km daily by foot power only back then. And still fought tooth and nails (just think about the Heroes that fought at Kurland… Courland Pocket - Wikipedia )
Its simply “I never read Truppenführung I & II and hence I pull knowledge off my ass” entries.
The bolt action rifle is not designed for unaimed fire – the Germans prefer it to be fired with nice aimed shots from the prone position
Barely seen prone shots in any of the books I have. Most Soldiers shooting standing up since this was the way they were told to do. Oh right on, the Autor even mentions his knowledge is purely based on Movies. lmao.
I am interested to hear what these leadership manuals have to say about this matter, if they have anything to say at all. Do you have that material on hand?
