Thoughts on Pacific weapons showcase for Squad 44

When I watched this video, I was shocked at how the explosions and the many types of grenades that were available to the Japanese. I was also surprised by the iron sights for the rifles and how they weren’t pushed into the camera. I hope Darkflow will add these things to Enlisted and make the Japanese tech tree great.

What are your thoughts on the weapons showcase? Would you like to see these weapons and equipment added to Enlisted?

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Man I love how they got the reticle on the Japanese sniper right enlisted just throwed a German reticle there and was done the part below is from my Japanese thread which im reconstructing since I didnt like how it turned out

1- The reticle is wrong on scope Japanese scopes had measurement so you could compensate for example wind or drop of bullet but in game reticle is just German reticle it seems
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(Real reticle for the 4x7 scopes)
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(Reticle for 2.5x10 Scope on type 97 and some type 99s)

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It’s like there was no fidelity when they made the Japanese weapons. Maybe that will change soon with the upcoming Burma update.

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Hope so and this is not the only wrong thing that we have in Japanese tech tree , Japanese contracat S1-100 were chambered for 7.63mm but in game they are chambered for 7.65 same thing with Sig 1920s they were chambered for 7.63 but in game they are in 7.65(While initial Sig deliveries were in 7.65 but that would be a very limited batch of all Sig 1920 that was delivered ) Also they didnt even bother to name them right sig 1920s were called by Japanese Type BE so I feel like it would have been right to name them as such also abot Japanese type 99 sniper , most type 99s had 4x7 scope while in game one is 2.5x10 while not wrong like the sig one , the 2.5x10 one was the less common of two


(Wrong it should have been 7.63)

  • Also type 97 MG scope reticle is wrong, too
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I’d love realistic scopes

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for more info about grenade rifles from japan if anyone wish more books about japs I have!

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incorrect aiming reticle is what really irritates.

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animation quality is way more consistent compared to enlisted, which is real nice
reisings and type 100/40 firing at higher rate of fire than usually depicted, which is nice
scopes, both reticles and the fact that mgs got them as well (a decent implementation of one as well, although not sure how plausible for enlisted it would be to have a second ADS model located to the right like in here)
direct fire knee mortar, too bad in enlisted you are forced to use it like a normal mortar

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That is another thing I noticed. There was a whole lot less jank in the animations.

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I like how there is a slight camera shake whenever the character do something with their weapon. The screen shake slightly when he’s operating the bolt during a reload and when firing his weapon. It make the gun feel like it have weight to it.

Other things I like:

  • ADS bolt cycling for bolt action rifles
  • Reload animation without lifting the MG from the mounted bipod position
  • Sound of rifle grenade launch. Enlisted rifle grenade firing sound like a T-shirt gun, these grenades are launched using a blank ammo which is still loud.
  • Visual recoil for mounted heavy weapons, Enlisted HMG and 20 mm AA feel so weak because they don’t have that effect.
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how is this an improvement?

Also, the “pushed into the camera” is literally like 2 cm distance difference


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People literally were complaining that half the screen is being taken up by a gun before the recent ironsights rework lol

The things that Enlisted is missing is recoil most of the time. Most weapons in S44 actually have some kick to them

But holy hell do 99% of Enlisted weapons sound so much better. S44 guns sound like damn air rifles lmao

One thing I’m really jealous about is the more realistic rifle grenade animation - where you actually have to put in the blank round as well. And the proper scopes. And ability to manually switch between scope/irons while keeping the full functionality of sligh ironsight zoom

Do you want to rephrase your comment?

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wait, so you want to undo the “you can actually use the ironsights of half the guns in the game now” update?

Sir, why must you strawman?

The only correct camera position for Japan’s bolt action rifles is the Type 99 (Late). It is so good that one could argue that its camera positioning and zoom are better than those of Squad 44. But the rest is garbage. This is not the case with Squad 44, as they are consistent with their camera positioning and zoom. This is something that Darkflow should strive to create.

Enlisted’s Zoomed and Unzoomed ADS for Type 99 (Late)

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Squad 44’s Zoomed and Unzoomed ADS for Type 99 (Late)

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Enlisted’s Zoomed and Unzoomed ADS for Type 99 (Early)

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Squad 44’s Zoomed and Unzoomed ADS for Type 99 (Early)

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Enlisted’s Zoomed and Unzoomed ADS for Type 38 Rifle

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Squad 44’s Zoomed and Unzoomed ADS for Type 38 Rifle

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Wow I prefer these so much. What I wouldn’t give to have these instead of what’s there right now.

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Ngl HLL and S44 are making a comeback for me while Enlisted is losing its former glory with less and less focus on actual WW2 and more and more fake stuff added

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How is this a strawman? Squad 44 sights are how the game basically used to be and it was FIXED because that made some of the guns outright unusable. I can’t find the post showing the sights before and after the improvement but it’s out there

I went with Type 1 over the awful Type 99 because I remember them having sights basically like this - where you could not see a thing through them. Tried them out after the change and they are actually somewhat usable. Why are you out here shilling to go back?

The S44 looks better in a showcase…then you actually watch it be used and the guy can barely see anyting through it because the aperture is like 5 pixels in diameter even when zoomed in

On the awful S44 version I can barely see the damn sight itself, let alone whatever I’m supposed to be shooting

There’s actual things that are worth improving - the scopes, the animations, adding actual recoil to stuff vs the stupid dispersion.

They’ll probably come around to it eventually…recently there was some stealth-ish update to some german scopes that made them look better. Nation specific flaks tool like a year or two lol

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they didnt change anything with arisakas, 38 carbine, rifle and 99 early all were the same since pacific was released (and i believe carbine was the same ever since it was added as a premium moscow squad)

wait really?
admittedly I took one look at them and refused to use them ever but they seem less bad than they used to be

And i still think the S44 are awful where you can’t see anything through them
Especially this one

it’s like a nightmare version of old M2 carbine

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