The suggestion is simple.
Add a 20 round magazine variant of the M1A1 submachinegun.
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Why, unless you are suggesting it be placed at level 2? I would agree to that as the only other options you have at level two for Thompson are the BP 1929, or a couple premium Thompson squads.
I also think DF needs to drop the base BAR1918 to level two as no one is going to use it in level three.
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Good idea for proper tech tree BR2 Thompson.
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Probably that. Br 2 thompson in tt is needed. We have 2 premium br 2 thompsons, 2 bp br 2 thompson and 1 event br 2 thompson for japan
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Grease gun sucks so a nice BR2 Thompson would be welcome.
I keep using Lanchester even with my US assaulters on BR2.
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I like the Grease gun, but it shoots so slow that you can always get the first hits on an enemy, but your almost always going to die because his smg shoots twice as fast. Level two needs a Thompson, or even a Hyde for that matter as I like the ones I bought off BP during their sale and I like it. They need to put the Thompson, Hyde or both in the level two tech tree…Along with a level two BAR. 
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Yes, BR II obviously
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These are the level two Allied squads I play with. Not much tech tree here I’m afraid, so, I guess this is pay to play, but I love the squads. The Surpressed Grease gun is not any better then the M3A1 Grease gun and actually has slight less power, but I like the site a little better. But to be honest, when I play level two I usually don’t select them much since I can go back to one of the others. I do use the Lanchester in my APC though.
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grease gun is great 
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M3 is pretty bad (obv, since that’s BR1 smg), but M3A1 just has an incredibly good feel.
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i enjoy both grease guns.
far better than the thompson m1a1
i dislike the reising.
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I like it.
But back then, before they changed camera for sights. It was unplayable.
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ye too much zoom
Imho this gun would be too strong for BR2.
I played Japan some hours ago (BR II) and had to face US BR III (again). Had the chance to pick up a BAR1918, refill it with ammo from a nearby crate and hell this gun is so unbelieveble OP with next to no movement penalty and a very good accuracy/dispersion. Killing 20 enemies was no challenge. My absolute favorite US firearm.
On german side, the MKb42(H) should also be lowered to BR IV because of the exact same reasons as you mentioned in relation to the BAR1918 - but it will never happen.
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Good idea!
Yes, they should add variants of all Thompsons with 20 rounders at BR II (also folder the existing ones ffs)
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Yeah, that’s what some people say, but I kill as many people with the MG13 as I do with the BAR. When I compare the two base tech tree guns, as far as I can see they are pretty much even. BAR has more vertical recoil and the MG has more horizontal. The MG has a higher ROF, and the MG has a five round bigger mag size. If not for the MG34, I would almost argue that the MG 13 should be a BR3 MG as it should be the same as the BAR IMOP. The Allies are very weak at level two MG’s, which is why I use BP MG’s at BR2, same with the Soviets and Japanese since they also have crappy BR2 MG’s. Some would love it, some would not, I guess it depends on which faction is your favorite, and since I play them all, I just want even footing when it comes to weapons.
Some people said the Thompson was to much for level two, but since they have had a couple premium squads and some BP weapons I haven’t heard many complain about it being to much for level two. Who knows, I doubt DF will ever drop a BAR to level two anyway, they never listen to me. 
IMOP the BAR would balance out the MG’s in level two as the German ones are much better. I would also love to see DF take the Russian BP RPK 1943 MG and make it tech tree as it is much better then the Madsen, however it’s handicapped by a 15 round mag. And I wouldn’t be sad if DF moved the Japanese JE7 level three MG to level two, especially since from what I hear no one is playing level three Japanese anyway, and if they do they could very well get punked to level five, so why not just play a level five MG and move their level three MG, which is on par with the MG13 and the BAR down to level two. I even had to buy a level two Japanese MG since their tech tree ones should be no higher then a level one, which IMOP the Bren and the Madsen should be. 
The only BAR I would move is the first one, the BAR1918, and leave the A1 and A2 at level 3.
First of all, the stats comparison is completely one sided here since the MG13 is max upgraded and the BAR1918 is stock.
Secoundly, the in game stats don’t show many things, such as actual recoil and ADS speed which is the most important for the BAR1918.
ADS speed determines how long the gun is useless after running and turning around, the higher the value the less time it takes for the penalty to disappear.
Normal MGs have 0.3
MG13 only has 0.25
ARs have around 0.7
SMGs are around 0.8
Meanwhile BAR1918 has a value of 0.65 making it a run’n’gun weapon compared to other MGs.
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Your correct, my bad I did use the wrong MG 13 picture. I actually took four pictures, one of my maxed MG13, one of my maxed BAR A2 and two of the tech tree units. Then I remembered that mine was the mased A2. Anyway, I did use the wrong MG 13. That being said, there is never going to be an even 1 to 1 match pretty much on any weapon,. But if you just look at the guns base specs they are pretty close, not the same but as close as your going to get. Yeah, the sprint factor is higher because the BAR is a lighter MG. DF is never going to drop a BAR to level two anyway, but I will continue to bang the drum asking.
And doesnt have to, but the above mentioned such as ads & movement penalties makes it work more like a auto rifle rather than lmg.
Sure, problem such as that is hardly notable in higher levels as ppl use anyway weapons that surpasses bar by large margin.
But below BR3 issue as that is rather notable as it would arguably be auto rifle no one else has.
Fix them to be in line with other lmgs of low br and for all I care it can be moved down.