Friendly fire by artillery should be a thing again.
It made more sense, and made you think about where you put it. Now you can use it as a damn “flashbang” where it does nothing to you but destroyed the enemy, allowing your team to push
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Did you ever hear the tragedy of Stotheg the cu**?
I thought not. It’s not a story those wanting friendly fire on would tell you. It’s a team killer legend.
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Well, there is no problem a bullet can’t solve
Planetside2 has ff and is f2p yet it’s not a big problem. So if there is will, there is a way.
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No it shouldn’t be a feature.
If bombing runs, plane bombs and tanks he doesn’t team kill, no reason for normal arty drops to do.
None.
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So you think calling an arty strike on an objective, and then having your team or you push it, without risk (You push if teamate drop) is ok, while the enemy will just die, or have to take cover where theyll be vulnerable to your run n gun SF?
Good gameplay /s
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Then why wasnt he banned?
There are so many solutions for teamkilling, you using the example of one toxic cunt is unfair.
Add a “Forgive” system, where if a teamkill is a genuine accident and or it is your fault you can forgive the guy. Rack up too many TKs get kicked from match
Rack up a lot of TKs in several matches, get a ban for a decent period of time.
After ban the behavior continues, it will be at the mercy of a manual mod reviewer, who will probably give a perma ban
That is just 1 solution!
There are countless others you can come up with.
My point being enlisted used to have FF, from arty, planes, FmWs and even in lone fighters i never met a problem when someone intentionally griefed by teamkilling.
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You answered yourself with your first sentence.
“Why not allowing team killing in squads with arty?”
Because there’s not JUST Stotheg:
Stotheg -
AND DF has the reputation of not lifting even a finger against those. Or if they do it take years. Seriously it took 1 or 2 years before they banned Stot… on the forums. And the guy kept saying plain as day :“guys look, my score is minus 2000 again, hurr durr durr”
And you ask… to give those an ever better team killing tool.
Until those “forgive” system are implemented, there’s no reason to add friendly fire with arty. None.
Also have you forgotten? It used to be a thing, AND DF experimented with increased shell shock effect for friendlies. Result: EVERYONE hated it, it was borderline unplayable.
Long story short: let’s not repeat the same mistake, shall we?
To be fair there was exactly no feedback that you are hitting/stunning friendlies nor any penalty for it.
Clasic DF move if you ask me. Implement half assed feature wthout a second thought.
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Precisely.
It’s why I never wanna see friendly fire arty UNTIL a proper “ban the fuc… err… the teamkiller” gets implemented. Not before.
The problem is that DF won’t implement such feature before (potentially) adding FF.
So basically problem A is unsolvable because of broblem B and problem B is unsolvable because of problem A.
Except problem A could be solved by the change of the approach of the devs. But I don’t believe it will happen 
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Sums it up pretty well… nothing to add 
Friendly arty should at least make you walk really slow to not abuse arty protection
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I was having this discussion with my buddies last night actually. On one hand, I agree it should be a mechanic due to realism as well as game balance. On the other hand however, the people calling in artillery strikes are rarely caring if it would effect teammates or not. (At least on console), most radio operator squads also contain an engineer and a sniper and spend the entire game just sniping and raining fire, rarely moving into an objective themselves.
You do suffer from shell shock/ concussion when hit by friendly artillery. This alone CAN cause a lot of problems.
The enemy is dead by the artillery so swaying doesn’t mean much if you have nobody to shoot.
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you ovviously never played as a blue space murphy.
you’re not playing the NC properly if dont whitness, commit , or suffer from a daily dose of friendly fire ( and i’m not even joking ) in at least any fire fight within any zone.
Well, ff is a faction specific perk for NC
But what else can be expected from disorganised rebels hon hon hon
Strenght in unity
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easy fix… just enable friendly fire for everything… now it is kinda stupid that 500kg bomb drops and kills only enemies even though friendlies are on ground zero.
undespicable behavior.
imperialistic 
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At least the red are not space communist 