This is sad, You made bots even worse

Now bots have 10000000% higher chance to 360 no scope you across the map

Congratulations darkflow you screwed it up

Now it’s unplayable

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Skill issues, you need a pause.

I don’t understand ppl saying this a huge problem making the game unplayble.

If a bot 360 quick scope you, fine. Jesus christ, its not like he’s gonna wipe your whole squad.

Remember, if you aim down a bot/cluster of bots you’ll have their attention.

Don’t aim and not take the shot.

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i find this really lame, sometimes i make succesful ambush only for AI to do 180, if i do succesful ambush let me have my cake. If they were real players i’d mow them all. so immersion breaking.

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Totally agree with you Lisqs. Trying to knife bots these days is near imposable, as soon as you get near them they just turn and ya dead. Now that isn`t very realistic, seeing as I am normally coming from behind.

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Yep, they even screwed up the so-called “no more kills through bushes and trees” update. They only add one thing, but after that it’s a complete fuck-up in so many other stuff. Don’t wanna insult or anything, but Jeez, what kind of devs are they?

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The AI is unfair and unpredictable. That is the issue. Sometimes it pulls off crazy long range shots, sometimes it instantly turns to face you while you attack from the flank or from behind, and it very often shoots you through things you would not be able to spot them through (foliage and grass).

It is not that the ai is good, it is that it very annoying to deal with, and it makes the game play more like a pve rather than pvp one.

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actually over time of playing so if your new your AI companions cannot shoot well or accurate so over time as you play, your AI companions will get better at shooting i noticed this when i have been playing with noobs. In conclusion you just need to lvl up and get better try playing some custom matches and stuff like that to realise

Except they DO wipe out the entire squad! I was on Gare-de-Saint-Lo on Normandy, and even through the heavy SMOKE they picked off my ENTIRE SQUAD repeatedly with a bolt action.

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Bots shoot better now?

They might shoot better, but they still can’t figure out windows. Still run through fire, stand in the fire, and die in the fire. They still take an obscene amount of time to aim and fire at enemies, and they seem to be adverse to anything like cover and stand out in the open just begging to be shot.

On the flip side, camouflage isn’t a thing in this game. So many times sneaking through bushes, I get obliterated by a bot which should have NEVER been able to see me. Then as OP posted, the unicum CoD 360 no scopezz shots they make.

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Not worse or better just as stupid as they were … when you dont know how to code a proper AI you dont set the whole game on AI squad system :melting_face:

The aiming system is absurd
They still have Xray vision
They see you behind their head
They build nothing
Their pathfinding is … non existent
They movement are erratic
They dont take cover properly specially indoor
They forget you as they cant see you no more even for 0.5s

Ill stop that but i think you see what i mean

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They were supposed to be using MTL to improve bots but they are as bad as they were few years ago. Why can’t they train them with millions of hours player gameplay and also play against each other so they could set up skill level of bots where every bot could have random skill level? Yeah that requires thinking and too much effort for them. If only they would hire some OpenAI coders… OpenAI Five Beats World Champion DOTA2 Team 2-0! 🤖 - YouTube

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An update on this topic

After playing more, I have to say bots behave like this only in Berlin

In other campaigns I wasn’t no scoped across the map as much

To be fair and reasonable, how do you code the bots properly? There is no way they can be balanced. They either tweek them one way and they become Terminators or they tweek them in the other direction and they make them useless. At this point I think its impossible to find a nice middle ground for the bots/AI. If it could be done, they already would have figured it out and done it.

bots should be removed completly :smirk:

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I have no issue. Yes they are annoying but in the end I mow them down like everyone else.

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Even just the ability to place them in cover like Brothers in Arms or CoH would be ideal. I don’t need them to emulate some sweaty tryhard, I want them to behave like SOLDIERS.

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Exactly
Is it really hard to add view range to AI?

Even if I always supported the squad system they should just remove AI completely by this point. Darkflow is just incapable of making good AI, it’s been 2 years and bots are just as shit as they always were, nothing’s changing

Maybe not remove them completely but at least shrink the squad number so instead of 8 brainless bots and 1 player we get 2 brainless bots and 1 player

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Bro, stop throwing shit to DF, don’t you see that their bots have reached a superior level? They have implemented the ability to hear in them. It’s a new step for AI, so please, stop doing your job as a tester and become a new servant for DF and the Snail and lick their boots.

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