There needs to be a bigger penalty on suicide

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A recent trend I’ve been seeing is planes just doing the War Thunder Arcade-style kamikaze runs where they fly in with the sole purpose of ramming a position after unloading all their bombs/rockets on it, it’s wasteful, hurts the team, and is irritating beyond belief because it only helps to make your team lose faster.

I propose that death by suicide, for all instances of suicide, is accompanied by an increase in the respawn timer that increases for each subsequent instance of suicide, that way, if you see a plane keep doing wasteful kamikaze runs, you see the player performing those runs seeing an increase in wait time between when they can spawn next.

An alternative would be to just lock that player out of using the squad they’re suiciding with for a certain amount of time, that way other players get the chance to use it more constructively than them.

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I get that Ramming is stupid, but suicide penalty would make it even worse considering the current situation. I can get shot high in the sky and spin down for an entire minute. Sometimes I even manage to land in the water or on the ground. In situations like this suicide is the only option, and being locked or given penalty for would just force players to crash more.

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Flying a plane requires some teamwork, it’s extremely hard to visually see which front requires air support, and most of the time you would be more useful on the ground.

People taking a plane out, unloading their rockets once or twice, then crashing it, is the optimal choice.

You know where the targets are, you spawn your plane, attack them, but after a while, your team doesn’t mark anything, so you’re just flying around wasting your time looking for targets. There is no mechanism where you can land your plane and switch to an other squad.

I don’t think punishing a player for trying to provide air support is the way to go. The squad respawn system works with this in mind; it’s not like you suiciding your plane means no one can use the plane anymore, it’s just your squad that’s put on cooldown.

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Tbh I suicide my plane when I’m done using it since there’s no J’ing out or anything so I just fly off the battle and slam it in the ground.
Penalizing suicides wouldn’t be a good solution for this.

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Debatable… and I personally disagree.

I do not pretend to be an ace pilot, but in those days, using the BF 109 G2/4 I’m getting lots of kills. Probably because I’m unopposed, and I’m facing mostly heavy fighters and heavy bombers.

But countless time I landed bombs and saved many matches
( weird flex, I know, but ok )

Jokes aside, and I’m not kidding for real, I can probably see why people complain about planes so much, they are really strong.

But, If you actually shoot enemies and rearm whenever you can, it’s really usefull.

Again, it’s up to the pilot seeking target.

It’s just about map knowledge, forward thinking, and lots of practice.
And the plane does affect. Like, upgrades, turning speed. And many others factors.

Exept, you are wasting it.

On a technical aspect, you are not a kamikazi fighter.

Well, I respect your opinion even if I disagree.

But it’s not always black and white.

Cheers.

To the main topic, well, i agree that suicide pilots should be prevented. But this is just my opinion.

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The thing is there is already a good system in place that I wish was in warthunder

If the plane Kamikazes, the bombs will go off after he is already dead. Which he gets no credit for the kills, And the explosions can kill team mates if the pilots dead

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Trust me mate…

Bombs do that already.

I landed over a friendly tank unloading my bombs for mistake, and I killed them. Tank included.

I should not be allowed on planes.

Got a video, I’ll upload it tomorrow.

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I am against you suggestion and disagree fully.
It happens sometimes you got killed because a grenade clipped, there is barbed wire which spawns just from nowhere, burning an enemy by flamethrower and got burnt self and so on… Besides of that it would take “fun” away to risk something, why penalty someone for doing something because they can’t repair the plane or are just a bad pilot because no person is spotting. Get over your rant and don’t try to make this game boring or to a waiting simulator.

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Probem is, Planes arent that helpful to the team in the first place. Unless you are one of the pilots that memorize the enemy spawns and strafes multiple squads in one run repeatedly, you arent really contributing nearly enough. I dont support a harsher suicide penalty.

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Alright, so if I rush a tank cooking a explosive pack in order to blow up that pesky tank that was really hurting the team, and end up killing myself in the process due to the explosion, I should be penalized because it was a suicide? :face_with_raised_eyebrow:

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I don’t really get most of your arguments, you seem to be saying that you’re good, so you’re better able to exploit the plane… okay?

It doesn’t change the fact that suiciding is the only way to get out of a plane. You can’t not “waste” the plane.

Or are you saying people that aren’t good at using planes should additionally get punished? No fun allowed?

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exploit plane?

no?

i just fly fly and shoot shoot.

not fly, spray rockets, and crash in the open field. because i can and i don’t get any punish.

that’s it.

no?
it’s not?

you can just die? like any other human ( in the game )?

if your KD worries that much, don’t worry, no one is gonna find out.

i don’t care if you are good enough, i’m not here to judge if you are capable to drive planes or not. but taking an important spot of someone else just because you are going to waste tickets and vital seconds in the plane just to kill your self, you should get punished.

it’s not matter of having fun or not, you can do that as no one forces you.

but wasting things in a " realistic " gameplay based on ww2 people should have more cure of their things.

not like, " oh well, i’ll just suicide my self because i can. planes goes boom haha1!1! "
it’s unlogical at all. this is not battlefield.

like, if it’s in moscow, ok, there are two spots for airplane per time. but on normandy, no exscuses.

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you can’t leave the plane without suiciding.

whether it’s by crashing it into the sea, into your team mate, bailing out at altitude, or via the menu, these are all suicides.

ps: i dont know if English is your first language, but some of the things you’re writing can be seen as provocative and insulting, so try to keep that in mind

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than suggest one

as said before, a redooplying function like H&G.

than don’t take the plane in the first place if you are just going to make a few kills and suicide?

like, i don’t know the matters with new obt people honestly. the majority takes the plane just to crash and go somewhere else. is that like, a task? show it to me. i don’t get it.

i honestly don’t know what are you talking about.

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to get back on topic, I don’t think there should be a penalty for suiciding when you’re in a plane, as every method of leaving the plane is considered suicide, so it would punish everyone

there is no “leave vehicle” like in war thunder, and you can’t except people to stay in the plane until someone shoots them down